Intergalactic Summit

Don't be foolish, Kim. The Amarr are the State's trusted military ally because the State opposes the Federation, and the Federation supports the Republic. That means the State doesn't exactly have a lot of choice who they ally with. If the State wanted to go it alone, do you think the Amarr - who were only stopped in their military expansion by the Federation - wouldn't have been Reclaiming Caldari systems as quick as they could? Do you think the Federation wouldn't be stepping in to 'safeguard the freedom of former Federation bloodlines'?

The Empire and the State are allied because they need one another, and they don't have anyone else they can ally with. And as long as there are four major Empires, that deadlock will remain, and the very idea of either side being able to pursue a real peace will be a sick joke - because peace overtures on the part of any of the four would mean abandoning and betraying the only nation that's been willing to risk war for them.

I don't like trolling and insult of my uniform, tribal.

My uniform doesn't hate people, my uniform SAVES people. It protects Caldari colonists from gallentean genocide. It saves Caldari POWs from gallentean inhuman tortures. And it finds and destroys those bad people, who display agression to us.

It is not about freedoms, religions, ideals and other crap. It is about delivering punishment for those, who act aggressively against us or display desire to act aggressively (as preemptive strikes).

Diana Kim's words are her own. She is a woman of conviction and speaks on behalf of herself.

Radical Statists within the IGS share Kim's views on the "Gallente Question".

You raise your Reformist torch high, Kim; you seek to burn the discourse-seekers with your dogmatic rhetoric.

Keep up your loyalty to your spirit, Kim. We salute the strength of your belief. o7

'fishy fishy fish. Da Da Da.'

Diana Kim's beliefs are FAR from conservative. In fact she's something of a revolutionary with strong ideas about suppressing corporate independence, forming a strong central government and establishing a centre-planned economy.

The closest to conservative beliefs that she has are her social beliefs, racial purity, heiian, meritocracy and so forth.

Kameira are not slaves.

We are not brought up in chains, there are no whips or vitoxin or microcontrollers. We do not belong to Holders we belong to god like every soldier does. Being captured as a prisoner of war will never make a Kamiera, no punishment exists or law to create. We are born only. We are not property, service is bartered from the Imperial Navy. We are not. We do not lack our own rights any more than members of any military unit of our caliber do, able to act of our own free will as much as any soldier is able. Often more as our expertise gives us privilege and voice far beyond our rank. Our lives are not happy, they are not meant to be so. Happiness and comfort are the privilege we buy with our deaths, for others. It is Duty and god and purpose that drives us and I swear I am already sick of hearing you insinuate we live the lives we do because It is easy enough to not grate.

You could not be a Kameira, you would have broken or been found unfit before first subigo. No one who could not face that challenge can speak as to the motivations of those who have embraced and thrived under it. I agreed with you when you said those who have not the experience cannot still empathize but then you make the most simple mistake of empathy and assume.

Your assumption that you know what it is like, that you know enough to empathize. Your assumption in drawing a conclusion that makes me want to subject you to a single day of a Kameira's life just to watch you end up in the hospital. Perhaps at the absolute prime of your life you would be barely capable of enduring what every Kameira does when they are six. But your attitude would have you at the back of the pack and I know you would not survive the night. Yet you open your mouth and say Kameiras "Are not sufficiently unhappy to risk everything to search for an alternative."

Kameiras die on their first day of training. Kameiras risk everything in existing. We risk everything more times than you will in your life before our training is finished and THEN we join our combat units as soldiers in war. When it comes to Kameiras, keep your mouth shut about what you do not know. Empathize with what I would do to you for speaking like you have and think.


This entire thread is idiotic, some holder has given up his slaves and his title for a different life and all of you spend pages discussing the definitions of freedom and honor. If you need to define freedom then you have not had it taken away from you. If you cannot tell what is honorable and what is not then you have strayed too far from god or too far up your own ass. Conflating its meaning with reputation and virtue... Honor means only adhering to a code faithfully; no witness but god matters. His code made the once-holder dishonorable in keeping slaves and title. His actions because of this have made him dishonorable just as surely.

Adhering to a code. The first of which before all others was a mother dying for her child, was a wounded man killing the one who wounded him. Honor was knowing that if he died of his wounds before he reached his goal, god and nature would forgive his killer. And yet all of you argue if this once-holder acted honorably instead of doing as honor dictates: Actions, not words.

not every Gallante screams "freedom" at the top of their lungs.