EVE General Discussion

Many, many people use the internet to appease their egotistical need to point out where someone else is wrong. For a brief crystal shining moment the angst of the human condition is all heaped upon another as spectacle. Human sacrifice, bullfighting, combat bloodsports and the Eucharist all serve the same need.
This is not what killboards are for though and those threads are garbage.
I use killboard as an album of happy memories and as intel.
Leave em alone.

Back in my day the goon KB was the single most hated thing in the swarm.

Aw, c'mon now. Surely CCP has retained the subscriptions of some new cowards by now.

But kinda on topic, I'd like to see the losses to pve removed. For instance, my losses to burners show up, and I'm thinking the KB should only record action between players.

Iv been to goons, providence, spectre-fleet, mordus angels, now doing solo yolo, not belonging to any bigger group.... Iv played the game for 5-6 years now and all that time doing PvP.
What I see is that people don't want to have fights that involve risk.
Holding the kill till everyone is on the killmail, hold the pod - its everywhere! Why is that? Don't tell me its not cuz of people want to have that green line on the killboard.

Main issue is: People don't want to have that red line and this holds back many interesting engagements. Do you agree?

I think for CCP it would be smarter to find out the way where people find out the risk in the game itself, not letting people to use out of game tools (killboard) to find out the risk of the engagement.

Do you really believe people are willing to lose a fight and feed you with easy kills just because there is no public record of their dump move?

On a personal note, I will always engage if I see a realistic chance of winning the fight, let's say 70%. Otherwise if I know I will lose, I will not engage, would be stupid otherwise.

Nope. See most recent loss. I pick fights that are fun.

But I have the attitude of a winner, so I'm never a loser.

I do agree that killboards or any statistics in any game will hurt the said game in many ways if they are made public. Some players will be so focused on them that the ambiance in the game can become really terrible (Heroes of Newerth, etc.), some will cheat to satisfy their moro... I mean e-peen feeling (Counterstrike, etc.), many won't take any risks to get a bad history and so exclude themself from a large part of a game, etc.

The real problem is that if you don't take care of your stats, someone will take care of them for you. You could be a willing player who want to do pvp even solo, but you can be refused by a corp/guild because you tried by yourself and get bad marks...

In the case of EVE, I wonder if we would have more players who would leave high-sec systems and join null ones, if they had a way to hide their score. I was one of them but when API didn't exist, I knew I could just not post my lossmails so then sometimes I didn't post them, as I was reluctant to get bad marks. With time it didn't matter anymore and it become impossible anyway... but if I joined the game today, I wouldn't even think about going outside high-sec systems.

So I think that if a player has the option to anonymise his lossmails, we would probably get more fights and more players to do pvp, even for the sake of fighting a lost battle for fun. But everything should have a cost and so if you anonymise your losses, your name won't be in your killmails too. In all cases, the name of the corporation/alliance should remain as killboards are an interresting intelligence tool.

Yes, I know that I will never see that happen.

Going with what someone else said killboards aren't just about keeping it green or red, its about the story and legacy of the pilot.
Anytime i link the killmail where our Black Ops pilot shot someone who he thought was in corp (Wasn't) and got CONCORDED while i was the sole person in the fleet who thought to get on the kill our comms go from talking to howling laughter, given this killmail is years old now but still.

Op. Consider changing what you fly solo

Things like Vagabonds and cyclones attract a lot of heat.
Which means you will be fighting blobs a lot. Good news for you though, those ships are good at fighting blobs.

Its probably is the biggest single problem in the game. KMs have been the source of some of the worst gameplay around.

It really seems that Eve Pvp has really become "KM grind Online" at times.