Wormholes

Step 2: burn down citadels on SISI to figure out which ones are pinata-y enough to take down.

Step 3: Be a giant **** and invade 5 man corps with 70 pilots and 100% TZ coverage.
*edit* forgot to add - 'whine on reddit when said corp doesn't come out to fight you in a pitched battle of 5 vs. 20.' Filthy bears.

'emergent' gameplay.

You too can be paid pennies for your work while helping wealthy and large wormhole corps earn some extra pocket change and extract the maximum amount of tears from clueless hoarders and industrial corps.

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At about 50 mil I would start considering this

Go away. Go into wormholes for fun fights, not to camp and evict small groups.

Still, 1 mil per citadel is still far too low. Only idiots will work for that kind of money.

Good for him


I have perches off about 300 citadels in Wormhole space but:

One: I wouldn't do it for 1mill per cit.
And Two: Evictions without a reason aren't my thing. As pointed out in an earlier post:
No...

I'm not sure why you think there is such a risk to WH space. As soon as someone gets into your system he can trivially find all citadels via the sensor overlay in just a few seconds if he uses the sensor overlay properly.

On the other hand, if someone uses this API to find a system with multiple citadels in, they've got to somehow get into that system which means rolling hundreds of holes. But if someone rolls hundreds of holes, the chances are they'll find a more appealing target far before they get to your system.

If anyone is seriously interested in evicting you, they've already logged off a scout in your system so they can find a way into it. If they've already got a scout in your wormhole, then that scout has access to far more information than you can get through this API.

I don't reckon this API gives much assistance to evictions. I am happy to listen to reasoned arguments why my view is wrong though.

this is a very shity deal it's a waste of time I would maybe do it for 10 million

if you got 10 million isk per citadel you could get a billion isk in an hour or so depending on where you flew. There are a lot of citadels out there and I'm not made of money!

Let me break it down for you, there's no asset security in wh space. So, you bookmark all these citadels. You figure out who owns the system (zkillboard). You find a fortizar in a c2 with a corp that's never killed another ship. You get some polarized oracles on sisi - you waste some time.

30-bil of stuff in there? 50 bil? Great burn it down. Not only that but now you know how the citidal was fit, you know if they have caps, etc.

People are already doing this in a small scale - they don't need an api verified tool to make their job easier. I get where you're coming from but this isn't a charitable endeavor for wormhole space.

Edit: I've checked your posting history, this seems like a fun project for you - I'm not trying to say it's the worst thing ever. It's just not very healthy for wh space.

Ok this is what I don't get about your plan. Lets say you find a system with a citadel with this API. All you get from this API is the system name, and the name of the citadel. You have no idea what corporation owns the citadel.

So what you're saying is, you're going to roll several hundred holes on Sisi to find out the corp that owns the citadel (because this API can't tell you this). But it turns out that corp is super active. Ok better roll another few hundred holes to find the next citadel on the list. Ok this corps not very active. So you're going to burn the citadel and see what drops. Uh oh, terrible drops. Ok burn another few hundred holes to find the next citadel on the list. Finally you find a corp that's not only not active, but has some good stuff stashed in their citadel. Great, so now you move over to TQ armed with that information, roll several hundred holes for real until you find that system and burn the citadel down. That was a lot of effort.

How about this easier plan B: go on Sisi, roll holes until you find a citadel, check corp history, if not active, then pop citadel. rinse and repeat until you find a good citadel. Now switch to TQ and roll hundreds of holes until you find that citadel again.

Honestly plan B is the better one. What benefit does this API give to someone who's doing plan B? Finding out from the API there is a citadel in a particular wormhole doesn't tell you whether its owned by a corp that's active or not. So what exactly do you gain from knowing there is a citadel in a particular wormhole?

I can imagine the existence of a citadel in Nullsec being somewhat useful intel - if a citadel is in Delve, its almost certainly a Goon citadel, and you know from its location how easy it is to get to. But with wormholes, the location of the citadel gives you little clue who owns it, unless you know the wormhole is e.g. Hard Knox HQ. And in any case its surely so hard to get to a particular system, that the best strategy is surely to roll a few holes and check out the citadels you find that way, rather than roll hundreds of holes until you find a particular citadel you have seen on the API that could belong to anyone.

I'm honestly curious: I don't get how this API could be used to any significant advantage in wormholes.