EVE General Discussion

Alts kind of covers that though

My max dps on this particular character is 10. I'd still go for a pod-kill if I found one in front of me

Not really, since the Alts are in the player corp. They are used for contracts only while the main skilled character will be the NPC character with the freighter. It's pretty much the opposite of what you stated.

Since OP is talking about day 1 players, the best advice would be "don't worry about isk/hr unless you want to move on to another game soon"

The other advice would be to pay $ for either plex or skill extractors and sell it for isk. Eve become far more enjoyable once I had a 1b cushion under me.

My total Eve experience might be roughly 1 - 2 years. In that I've restarted about 3 or 4 times IIRC. In each time I've hit the same wall. That is rushing too fast into your world. So being caught out in the newbie position multiple times as opposed to those who made it and did it well long ago, I wonder if I'm actually more qualified to talk about it now than most. If true, you should be listening to me and at least taking some insight even if there are flaws.

Look, I get you. I cannot assume what others know. I should be listening to more experienced players. But for hells sake man. 1 - 2 years with multiple restarts has given me at least a small voice. Else I will be shutting up for good while you get to enjoy yourself. And sorry, I don't take kindly to that sort of oppression.

All said and done, I'll figure it out on my own I guess. Don't mean to disrespect.

Don't worry to much about Jenn. The way she sees it, the only good way is her way, and if you don't rush in get smashed in the face and persevere, you're doing it wrong and will never earn her respect. If however you're looking to get used to the game at your own pace and learn how to learn rather that just be dumped into a situation and get used to it, your post is fine. The main thing to remember is that there's more than one good way to get into playing EVE. Some people seem to think it's solely about shooting other players and forget everything else.

There really isn't any shame in needing material help from more advanced corpmates. No one expects new players to jump straight into null without support.

Holy sh*t, please don't ever give advice again. Literally every single one of your points is terrible.

Don't assume null is the place for you. It's the place for me for a number of reasons (freedom from the BS "hug me I'm scared" mechanics of high sec, free of the nonsensical mechanics of low sec, not as scary/unpredictable as wormhole space, can be won and lost, can pve and pvp at the exact same time and other things).

But sov null isn't for everyone. Some people like null freedom but don't like the idea of losing home so they live in npc null. Some people love how WH space is unpredictable so it's WHs for them. Some people need to show off "skills" to other players while playing and don't like huge groups where it's hard to know everyone, so it's low sec and/or FW for them. And some (twisted) folks honestly like high sec.

But you have to figure out what you like 1st. Which come back around to the main point, your original point of advocating preparedness was well meaning, but experimentation (and learning to accept ship loss which in turn helps a player keep the game in context) is WAY more important than waiting for the right skill to finish. Getting prepared to do stuff turns EVE into more of a job that it should be IMO.

I'm saying this as someone who received bad (but well meaning) advice from members of my original high sec mission running corp who said "get prepared first, take it slow" I wasted almost a year in high sec saving a quite delusional Damsel over and over again when (in hindsight) I'd have been better off jumping into a Vexor and diving into the rest of the game's pve and pvp.

Find your niche, THEN turn around and help newer players.

Go screw a cactus you gory damn piece of gangrenous turd.

Sorry, tired of seeing the same thing over and over