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New Dev Blog: CSM December summit – meeting minutes are out

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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2012-01-17 16:16:16 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Navigator
The CSM visited CCP in December 2011 to discuss EVE Online and its future development. CCP Xhagen and the CSM members have compiled the meeting minutes for your perusal, read all about it here.

The CSM and CCP will be actively monitoring this thread and encourage your feedback.

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Trebor Daehdoow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-01-17 16:21:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Trebor Daehdoow
Sorry it took so long, everyone. There was a lot of material to process. Enjoy!

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Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-01-17 16:21:27 UTC
You would release this just as I have to leave for work, wouldn't you?

:argh:

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Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
#4 - 2012-01-17 16:23:27 UTC
Ground floor of what should be an ~interesting~ thread. Cool

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Temmu Guerra
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-01-17 16:25:51 UTC
Well looks like I have some reading material for lunch today.
Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#6 - 2012-01-17 16:27:45 UTC
Plenty of good stuff in there, and if folks have any questions, feel free to ask!

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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#7 - 2012-01-17 16:31:04 UTC
Temmu Guerra wrote:
Well looks like I have some reading material for lunch today.


You might have to extend lunch as this is some very interesting reading ... and not too short either!

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#8 - 2012-01-17 16:31:29 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
"The value of the CSM has been seen in the past and there is no reason to disregard that fact on CCP’s behalf."

He, Hehe, Hehehe

I guess now CCP will Listen to CSM.

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Second Note: These aren't minutes. This is a Press Release. Which explains why it took over a Month to put together.

Mind you, it's a press release whose contents I, so far, approve, but Press Release nonetheless.

__________________________________________

Back to minutes format. More Content I like. Armor Suicide Wyvern Tackle FTW! Or just Tackle Aeons. Supercaps getting points might be nice, but gotta be careful to be sure it's not a stealth buff to HotDrops.

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"Also, when you've drilled down to certain types of specific item (such as a ship), you will get a 3D view of the item without having to make an extra click (again, Mac users will feel very comfortable)"
Don't really like harping on this, but you mean that it will freeze immediately or will it freeze 5-10 minutes after you load it? It's been over a month.

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Very much a good read. I enjoyed it and it makes me really hopeful about EvE's immediate future for improvement, and its long term future. Especially the part about growing into a more mature internal structure more suited to the established corporation that CCP is rather than the startup CCP has been acting like.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Mr Bigwinky
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-01-17 16:32:04 UTC
I approve of this
Welcome to EVE online, here's your rubix cube, go F*** yourself ♥
Draco Rosso
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-01-17 16:39:08 UTC
Using faction warfare as a test-bed for nullsec sov?
$^$%%&^$%$%$%#$#$@#
Faction warfare is it's own destination not a $#$$$ test bed for DULL-SEC.
Yes, I'm very mad. We need a FW guy in CSM now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Andrea Griffin
#11 - 2012-01-17 16:41:38 UTC
IBC!

Thanks for the minutes, there are up much more quickly than in previous years. That's greatly appreciated.

CCP Sreegs is my favorite developer.
Tore Vest
#12 - 2012-01-17 16:41:38 UTC
Remove the CSM

No troll.
Ian Grimshaw
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-01-17 16:42:56 UTC
It's very pity that inferior quality of Mac OS X client isn't prioritized and isn't talked about at all. CCP, if you're commited to making a quality product, then it really should be a quality product. Either make a playable client for Mac or don't distribute it and declare that you support Mac at all.
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-01-17 16:57:27 UTC
So, there have been concerns about single voter blocks dominating the CSM. CCPs "solution" to this is making a system that makes it much easier for the power blocks to dominate the CSM...

Very convenient indeed. Meta gaming for the win.

Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook 

Mr Bigwinky
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-01-17 16:58:18 UTC
Ian Grimshaw wrote:
It's very pity that inferior quality of Mac OS X client isn't prioritized and isn't talked about at all. CCP, if you're commited to making a quality product, then it really should be a quality product. Either make a playable client for Mac or don't distribute it and declare that you support Mac at all.

Lol Mac.

Your problem is that you bought a Mac, bro P
Welcome to EVE online, here's your rubix cube, go F*** yourself ♥
Myxx
The Scope
#16 - 2012-01-17 17:02:03 UTC
Celebris Nexterra
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-01-17 17:02:06 UTC
IBC, but only because I haven't read the minutes yet Twisted

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Max Von Sydow
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2012-01-17 17:12:24 UTC
Buffing T1 frigates and cruisers + fixing Tier 1 BCs.
Am I smelling tiercide?
Grarr Dexx
Blue Canary
Watch This
#19 - 2012-01-17 17:17:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Grarr Dexx
Quote:

The CSM reiterated its desire for CCP to implement a partial skill respec, especially in the aftermath of major
changes to ship classes such as the removal of drones from supercarriers


How about no.

If you wanna do flavor of the month, live with it when it gets put in line.

Quote:

The CSM noted that if outposts are going to be destructible, it is important for CCP to balance NPC nullsec
stations as well. The CSM advocated adding station services to NPC nullsec stations which can be disabled, like
the services on a conquerable station. Unlike a conquerable station’s services, which need to be repaired by
players, these NPC station services would regenerate over time.


NPC stations aren't the problem at all. Nerf them and you will ruin entire regions worth of PVP. It's what can be done without committing to the game.
Razin
The Scope
#20 - 2012-01-17 17:28:34 UTC
What's wrong with the PDF that I can't even search for text in it?
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