EVE New Citizens Q&A

I went out and did some experiments with the different mining lasers to understand how it works for income and these are my results.

Ship: Venture, with mining upgrade tech 1 in the low slot, also I do have most relevant skills at lvl 4 but most are 5.



Civilan miner 226~227 X 2 lasers = 454 units per 10 sec cycling and 38,325 ISK @ 14.02 per unit - 1 min cycling 271 m3

~18 min fill up @ 5000 m3


Gallente miner ~ 3479 (X2 lasers), units at 1 min cycling ~ 347 m3 at ~ 46,550 ISK @ 14.02 a unit.

~14 min fill up 5000 m3


EP-S miner 3774 (X2 lasers), units 1 min cycling ~ 377 m3 at ~50,413 ISK @ 14.02 a unit

13.5 min fill up @ 5000 m3


Particle bore compact ~ 1887 per laser cycling at 1 min total of ~ 3374 x 2 lasers ~ 377 m3 ~ 50,457 ISK per min @ 14.02 a unit.

~13.5 fill up at 5000 m3


Miner II - 2265 units at 452m3 -1 min cycling and 60,538 ISK @ 14.02 unit.

~11 min fill up @ 5000 m3


What this means is this, if you used only civilian mining lasers you would take between 18 to 20 mins to fill your cargo (5000 m3)

So in theory you could fill 3 loads (I mined veldspar), in an hour using civilian mining lasers.


Then you got tech 2 lasers which obviously mine a greater amount thus filling your ore hold faster because you can fill the 5000 m3 in about 11 to 12 mins, this means in theory you will get 5.5 loads @ 5000 m3 meaning you get 2.5 more loads of ore so the income goes up by 2.5 times that of a civilian miner per hour


At 15.80 a unit of veldspar it worked out llike this;

753,367 ISK per 5000m3 @ 15.80 ISK per unit

763,613 ISK per 5068m3 @ 15.80 ISK per unit


An increase in income of 1,909,032.5 ISK per hour more using tech 2.


Side note; I also used my cargo hold with small cargo optimization rigs giving me 75 m3 more adding 25615 ISK X 2.5, while not a great amount more always remember that there is tax and SCC fee that when you sell your ore is taken out of your pockets


And this for me was
-21,123 broker fee
-16,020 to the SCC

With a great standing with that NPC Corp so that little bit more you get will help cover most of those taxes and fees?

FTFY Sol.

Exactly.

Also good job on doing the research. However you forgot to include the ORE Miner which probably has the best results of all.



DMC

Because ISK380,000,000 is a reasonable amount for a newbro to spend on two mining lasers for their Venture?

On a side note to this post.

I would recommend training to use a retriever as soon as possible.

The increase in mining yield is much bigger and it has a 27,500m3 ore hold.

A lot of us more experience miners would always recommend getting into this ship as soon as possible with the venture being a "stepping-stone" mining ship.

Just to give you some maths:

Strip miner tech 1 has a cycle time of 3 minutes (or at least it used to be) and mines between 1100-1200m3 per cycle (dependant on boosts and bonuses you are receiving).

You can of course use the t2 modulated strip miners (crystals required) which give you a 3km extension to your range and a higher mining rate.

The retriever can use 2 of these simultaneously.

so 1100x2 = 2200m3 every 3 minutes

In practice, you can fill up 27,500m3 of of in 25-30 minutes (approx)

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Now for the serious miner, train for the Hulk asap!

This ship is a mining beast and I can pull 3700m3 with t2 strip miners every cycle.
The ore hold is smaller (8500m3) and that will fill the same 27,500m3 of ore in about 15-18 minutes, so between 3-4 cans per hour.


I hope this helps you and wish you the best of luck in your mining career. If you need anymore advise of just wanna chat, message me in game.

TL;DR

Don't mine if you value your sanity

Shhh blowing up hundreds of millions of isk worth of ore in spite is sometimes the only enjoyment I get after I jump into a system with mining bots that instantly dock up as soon as local changes

I am not sure if these are boosted numbers or not but IIRC full Rorqual boosts adds another 35% or so to your yield. Plus as has already been pointed out the small ore hold of the Hulk means that you need to have dedicated haulers to make it worth while.

Many years ago I used to be part of huge high sec minning ops with dedicated haulers and full Orca boosts. We would clear entire systems on nights that we ran ops. I don't think that kind of stuff happens in high sec anymore so if you really enjoy mining and want to focus on that as a career path then I suggest looking to move to null sec. You'll have to do your homework to find the right situation for yourself but IMHO high sec mining is a dead end path.

10+ Mil. ISK per hour is not great but decent for the very low risk involved. I won't mine 100+ hours to get a Marauder but if you just want to get the ISK for a few Vexors or a Drake it isn't that bad.

More realistic is probably ~8M per hour with "T1 skills" ... this sounds great for a newbie with nothing at the first glance ... but I give you a perspective...

Yesterday I was venturing through lowsec casually throughout the day, and was able to collect about 300M in loot where only ~20 was from PvP, I looted 60M from a BC wreck nearby a gate, then I found an MTU dropping 70M and collected 36 Firbolg I fighters worth 130M. I even don't bother with T2 drones, just collect the expensive (faction) ones.

All you need is a combat scanner ship with optional some DPS to kill MTUs, and you can easily collect more than 10M per hour just in loot and drones. Not to mention, DED or data/relic sites, you can do while having fun and thrill.