Intergalactic Summit

If we wrote down the story of our first elders and your scriptures were passed down orally, would the scriptures be superstition aswell? We are more than suited to question the motives of things written down by your ancestors and not a first hand account by the source as much as you can question our elders who passed down our "word."

I believe the Minmatar capsuleers turned out to support the Fleet, which they did without being terribly happy about how that fleet was used. I supported their decision then and I support it now - when the Fleet calls, patriots answer.

And then complain about it afterwards.

Would you take from the soldier their right to ***** and complain?

I second that! Especially the drinking part! It makes the *****ing and complaining so much more...colorful!

You should probably keep reading, if you're only that far along.

More superstitious nonsense. How do you prove the sun exists? It generates light, and heat, which are both measurable. We can demonstrate the light has a directionality, and that it comes from the big bright glowing thing we can actually see. The wind, likewise, produces a measurable effect, as the wind itself is simply the motion of air. As for music - well, all sound is actually just concussion waves through a medium, as detected and measured by the tympanic membrane in your ear.

Light, heat, kinetic energy, we can measure all of those. We can demonstrate their existence. What's more, we have reasonably functional models for their origins and the physical origins of the universe. Didn't need a 'god' to make 'em, either.

So, since I did, in fact, specify empirical proof - proof that can be tested, proof that will actually require the existence of God - I'd say you've failed pretty spectacularly, while simultaneously demonstrating a woefully poor vocabulary.

So got any other 'proof'?

Don't forget, though, they have a little book that says the people who are in charge need to stay in charge. They're not seeking power because they want power, you see, they have to seek power. Their little book of 'you should be in charge' tells them to!

Ms. Hanaya, I can see that you're being sincere here, but with us, you're barking up the wrong tree. Before this goes on much further, I can tell you that these arguments always end up going to the same place, nowhere.

We can't argue anyone into belief, no matter how strongly we feel those beliefs ourselves. Faith just doesn't work that way from what I've seen. I mean, think back to your own journey with your faith. I would bet that journey was marked by the lessons on faith that you learned from those who cared for you, experiences, customs, and rituals that are deeply cherished, and an experience of your God that is so powerful that nothing anyone could say or do could shake it. I don't know you personally, and I won't pretend to know much about the Ammarian faith, but when it comes to belief, those are the kinds of experiences that form it. Thats' the way it's been in my case and I would bet the way it's been with everyone here. Arguments, empirical evidence, logical debate all have very little to do with it. At the end of the day, belief is rarely responsive to any of that, not really. After all, isn't the hallmark of faith the acceptance of something without empirical evidence?

Faith just can't be communicated in the way that you'd like with scriptures and admonishments. Share your faith, yes. I'm sure those who are called will be willing to be lead. Personally, I welcome the sharing of faiths as I think the act of belief is always pretty awesome, no matter the actual faith. Just know in advanced that I, and pretty much every other Matari who's not of the Amarrian faith won't be swayed by admonishments to 'stop asking silly questions.' No dice, I'm afraid.

No, it was a comment on your reading comprehension.

On the role the Ammatar Mandate might play, being as it is a non-independent section of the Empire, under the administration of the very conservative House Ardishapur.

Since you apparently missed something directly relevant to the actual subject matter - unlike your pathetic attempts to bandwagon and curry the favor of the Amarr.