Player Features and Ideas Discussion

what do you mean "(except Incursions)" only human interaction that comes out of these is "sub optimal fit/ship gtfo of fleet" all run by players in npc or alt corps safe and snug in hs

that's because your idea is a joke eve doesn't need queues

thats because those games are built like a theme park eve is built as an organic sandbox

not to mention the entire idea of an instance goes against a core value of eve

how can people reach you to interact with you in the sometimes non-conseual pvp way. Why no instances...you can't be reached. Player A wants to PVE. Player B wants to PVP. Its now on Player A to want to PVE and not die more than player B wants to pvp and kill player A. Posted a way to be hard to probe...e stalk that thread. Can't be found easily, can't be pvp'd easily. Simple stuff.

Incursions give you this now.

Or...your 4 people can go out, not in pimp marauders and pirate BSs, and run a harder mission. Drop the level of ship, make the level 4 harder in a way and have at it.

example: In the past and I had 2 accounts when the combat char on 0.0 breaks in empire I'd have them dual box missions with the empire mission alt. To spice things up....empire alt would be in a meat shield boat and I'd say well....lets take the hound level 4 running. Fun and interesting times happened, bombers torp spec run level 4 pretty decent all in all. If something else (my meat shield rattler) was there to kill frigates and cruisers.

have 2 people do this, they can coop it.

Other fun ideas.....max gank dps mission boat. Logi backup and something small to run around and kill frigates. 3 people run now. Hell make it 4....recon player blasting paint, webs, etc.



Works for ratting too. You can pimp with expensive gear one BS to run a haven or sanctum and not die. Or 2-4 people with more modest fits can run it. Still pays well....and you cut the cost of the run because your tank only costs 300 million, not 600 mil. I try to be a cheap bear (currently in empire, used to bear in nun 0.0 between ops at times).


If I save say 300 mil on cost of boat, its 300 mil less I have to make back before I can even say the boat makes a profit. Faster paid off...faster I am actually making profit.

If you don't understand why instances goes against the very idea of EVE then you don't understand EVE. That is fine of course, you're new after all, but trust us when we say it's wrong in so many ways it's not even funny. EVE is an open sandbox where everyone can kick in every one else's castle. Having a castle behind invisible and impenetrable magic doors makes no sense in a sandbox.

There are already combat sites that you can access only with a key.

this is not new entirely new to eve... and this would take place in high sec... but I see the hole idea seems disliked.

Thanks for the support.
I appreciate it.

I kind of like the idea of gate locks being tied to the number of characters, rather than a special item you carry in your cargo.

Finding ways to encourage interaction is all good in my book, though I'd drop the word 'instancing'.

Make it that 2, 3, 4, etc. characters must be withing a certain range before a gate activates and I could see something like that having a positive aspect.

Limit the number of systems, so players can congregate in those systems, both the site runners and the players that would like to shoot them, but in all cases the gate only activates if the required number of ships are within range.

As far as PvE goes, it's at least an idea that encourages group play, even if not perfect.

The other thing that promotes player cooperation is the risk that you get ambushed by bad guys.

Just say 'No' to instances.

No, instances have no place in Eve.

It's not a new PvE idea by any stretch of the imagination; it's one that's been brought up many many times over the last 13 years.