EVE General Discussion

But then that was also earlier in the game where bigger changes were made to the game and the game was on a natural growth trajectory. I always love how you make this wild assumption that minor changes to highsec aggression mechanics shaped the entire game's growth.

They started on that because they know that growth would not continue indefinitely so they wanted to create broader income streams. I get that you hate change, but it has to happen or the game would very much be dead.

Well that's probably because they realised if the only people they catered to had the sole goal of destroying opponents gameplay to the point that they quit, they'd find it hard to grow their playerbase.

I find it funny though that you demand everyone accept the real EVE, yet when CCP themselves choose to make changes you can't handle it. Understand that EVE is what CCP decides it is, and if you don't like it you should simply move on.

Think of it as 'desire fulfilment', one way or other. This does not necessarily equates to your 'identity' or 'true self', because that is a very complex/fluid thing (my theory on identity has been that identity is an 'interface'/tool, not a 'quality/values').

Think of what you did alone in your room in complete privacy with unlimited varieties of w*nk materials to choose from (Internet is wonderful). What did you choose to watch and get off?

This may not say who you are in RL settings, but it does say something about your desires, explicit or implicit, openly aware or repressed, these are your desires.

Having said that, I don't have ethical prejudice on what is ok to be desired and what is not ok.

Couldn't bear to even start to read all 13 pages of this. Pretty simple: If you enjoy the challenge of trying to shoot ships and survive, you're playing a game. If you enjoy mentally dueling another player, corp or alliance, knowing they're trying to do the same to you, you're playing a game.

If you're enjoying attacking players themselves, and not their ships, you're not playing a game. If you're enjoying messing with people's heads, and they're not also working to mess with yours too-- you're not playing a game. That's when the way you play the game reflects on you in real life. One's not going after game objects or game opponents, one's going after random encountered stranger people. Big, big difference.

Who are you referring to here though?

The ganker who shoots someone who is going about their business in highsec? or

the guy who gets ganked and then communicates back that the ganker is an ********, should get cancer, should have their family raped, etc.?

Who's the one displaying behaviour that should reflect on them irl?

This thread is about the case of the ganker/wardeccer/aggressor in non-consensual pvp being an arse IRL because they play within the rules of the game; but generally we are all supposed to be PC about the feelings of others when they spew hate and rage at people just for shooting them

Well said.

You're an idiot.

I'm not a ganker. Therefore the rest is self evident.

Maybe you just didn't understand. That's not surprising by any stretch, but ho hum.

I am not Ima's alt, nor the alt of any other ganker. I don't gank.

If you have any evidence to the contrary, then post it.

Nor am I roleplaying, so I'll just refer you to this post by Kergit:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6631358#post6631358

That second paragraph is relevant to continuing this stupidity.

On the other hand, if time spent in the forum is an indication of in game ability, then your forum activity explains a lot about the incompetence of antigankers.

OK Ima Wreckyou, whatever you say...

I don't log in at all, this account ends 6th October..., but I will be back with my alpha account to post that is, logging in no...

Within the rules, really?

Lets take bumping..You say it's within the rules of the game, I'll bet anything that this wasn't even thought of as a part of the game even a few years back.

CCP agree with it sooo much that they've already announced changes to counter it, changes that haven't been implemented yet probably due to players instantly publishing a workaround to just carry on regardless.

Bonus room degradation tactics, you seriously think that was an intended part of the game design?

I'll say it again as you obviously didn't get it the first time around...

Space pixels and real life are very much intertwined, those pixels have been built/bought by a REAL person, it's a REAL person behind them, it's a REAL person you just pissed off by these bully boy tactics. Their items and such don't respawn as in every other game, when they are gone, they are gone and have to be built or bought all over again. In some cases they have literally lost everything they own in game.

It's like walking home from the pub and getting mugged by half a dozen youths, you lose your phone, wallet, keys, pride etc. Are you going to go away and shout good fight, what did I do wrong? Why players think that the victim should act this way is way beyond me. In my case I know exactly what the gf would stand for.

Or, as people are saying, should I never go to the pub alone, I should always be with a mate?

It's like the guy bragging about hunting and killing 100 mtu's simply for tears and the reaction, there's something seriously wrong in his head, and that's no different from players actively hunting defenceless barges and freighters.

So yes, they are perfectly entitled to rage after getting bullied off the field. If it's as bad as you say, pass it to CCP, or stop pissing people off, just don't come on here whining about getting abuse from them. You caused it.

No you are not an alt of mine, silly thing to say, also the out of the closet comment is a tad homophobic too, are you losing it a bit?

From the 6th October all my accounts will be de-subbed and all were paid for with RL cash. As CCP seems to ignore the issues around certain mechanics I decided to not put my money where my mouth is and will only return once CCP get their heads out of their rear end.

So for me its doing something that ends no consequence bumping and something to sort out the DST loot scooping exploit which again avoids consequences.