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Warzi zouille
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#81 - 2016-09-09 07:18:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Warzi zouille
Arahantius Detache wrote:
Keno Skir wrote:


To be fair mate you think nobody can even enter lowsec alone and survive, which is pretty damn weak.

Have a tall glass of man-up and go dig your balls out of storage Straight


LOL! I do go into nullsec and I do get ganked each time.
This little game is not a place where you need to man up, it's a baby game, ROFL Roll
Actually, I take that back, its unfair to the more mature players.
It's not a baby game, it's just another MMO, a pixel addition to life, nothing more.
Confusing courage with just playing a game is very juvenile.


The real world is the place where manning up needs to be done even though that phrase is laughable.
Until you've had your face split open by a baseball bat and continued swinging afterward, you have no place telling me to man up.
Been there, done way more, lol.


Damn right ! Lots of people seem to think that you meed to grow some balls and get to null/low sec to be a man in this game,
Being mature is admitting that people have different ways of playing the game. If im happy doing lvl 4s in dodixie all day, that doesnt make me less mature than the guy with -10 sec stat (ive been that ******* too) or the wormhole guy.

They make gaming a big-d**k contest

Rocco siffredi would have been mining in a retriever all day if he played eve im pretty sure of that
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
SL33PERS
#82 - 2016-09-09 07:44:08 UTC
Arahantius Detache wrote:
This coming from someone who's proud that they do good in a video game


Did you just chastise someone for taking pride in their ingame skills. On a forum dedicated to the game they're playing. Which you also play.

This is why I drink so much.
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
SL33PERS
#83 - 2016-09-09 07:45:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Ria Nieyli
Doublepost Please Ignore
Arahantius Detache
Arahantius Detache Corporation
#84 - 2016-09-09 08:02:17 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Arahantius Detache wrote:
This coming from someone who's proud that they do good in a video game


Did you just chastise someone for taking pride in their ingame skills. On a forum dedicated to the game they're playing. Which you also play.

This is why I drink so much.


Yeah, unfortunately I'm ashamed to be a gamer.
It's the one addiction in my life that I haven't managed to shake for close to 40 years, lol.
To be clear, it's not a slur on mature players, only those who love to belittle others over it.
Like the guy I slammed for trolling me Big smile

This is a definite weakness in my character and I'll readily admit it.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#85 - 2016-09-09 08:32:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Keno Skir wrote:
Arahantius Detache wrote:
Keno Skir wrote:


To be fair mate you think nobody can even enter lowsec alone and survive, which is pretty damn weak.

Have a tall glass of man-up and go dig your balls out of storage Straight


LOL! I do go into nullsec and I do get ganked each time.
This little game is not a place where you need to man up, it's a baby game, ROFL Roll
Actually, I take that back, its unfair to the more mature players.
It's not a baby game, it's just another MMO, a pixel addition to life, nothing more.
Confusing courage with just playing a game is very juvenile.


The real world is the place where manning up needs to be done even though that phrase is laughable.
Until you've had your face split open by a baseball bat and continued swinging afterward, you have no place telling me to man up.
Been there, done way more, lol.


Yeah mate i'm sure you're hard as nails like everyone else on the internet. My point still stands, it's not the game that gets you killed in nulsec, it's your ineptitude.

Man Up.. Sunshine.

Its more the gank culture of null that kills you in null. Its virtually impossible to get a fight you can win since everyone will flee if you have equal number, or its a 1 v 1 unless they have a vastly superior ship.

The majority of the time people going out to null to check the waters will run into a gatecamp with can be 2 or 3 people up to 100's of people. They will die and then decide its not worth going out there. They're largely right. Nowhere to dock, no market, nothing much to do out there except get ganked, unless you know what you're doing already.

Take a look at my alts killboard - L Dopa - I fly him around solo trying to get fights. Almost always in a caracal, cerb, drake or command ship and I'd like to say 9 times out of 10, but more like 99 times out of 100, no one will attack him unless they're at least 5 people or more.

So who really has no balls? The ganking null seccers too scared to risk their space pixels unless they have an enormous advantage or the guys going out there solo to check it out and get ganked... my moneys on the latter.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Arahantius Detache
Arahantius Detache Corporation
#86 - 2016-09-09 08:50:51 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:


Take a look at my alts killboard - L Dopa - I fly him around solo trying to get fights. Almost always in a caracal, cerb, drake or command ship and I'd like to say 9 times out of 10, but more like 99 times out of 100, no one will attack him unless they're at least 5 people or more.

So who really has no balls? The ganking null seccers too scared to risk their space pixels unless they have an enormous advantage or the guys going out there solo to check it out and get ganked... my moneys on the latter.


Yeah, it's becoming very apparent that there are players in this game with big mouths and no balls, lol.
I'm betting the loudest hecklers would be too scared to take you on 1 vs 1 Blink They'd need to bring their buddies, lol.
But , i guess thats the mindset of these gang thugs.
Yarosara Ruil
#87 - 2016-09-09 08:52:35 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Did you just chastise someone for taking pride in their ingame skills. On a forum dedicated to the game they're playing. Which you also play.

This is why I drink so much.


Think of your liver!
Tappits
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#88 - 2016-09-09 13:20:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Tappits
Care Bears are people that think low and null are scary places to be and that they will die....
Or people like code only doing easy no risk things.

I for one think Empire is one of the most scary places in eve because most of the time there is no direct way to fight back if someone would like to kill you there.
Zanar Skwigelf
HIgh Sec Care Bears
Brothers of Tangra
#89 - 2016-09-09 14:17:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Zanar Skwigelf
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Take a look at my alts killboard - L Dopa - I fly him around solo trying to get fights. Almost always in a caracal, cerb, drake or command ship and I'd like to say 9 times out of 10, but more like 99 times out of 100, no one will attack him unless they're at least 5 people or more.

So who really has no balls? The ganking null seccers too scared to risk their space pixels unless they have an enormous advantage or the guys going out there solo to check it out and get ganked... my moneys on the latter.


Why risk losing a ship when an uninvited guest wants an honobru space fight on their time, not yours?

Sending overwhelming odds is supposed to send a message that you are not welcome and need to leave, not an invite to fight.
Federigo Mondial
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#90 - 2016-09-09 15:40:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Federigo Mondial
Things haven't really changed since 4 years ago eh ?

A carebear is simply a person who wants EVE to be safe and denies ALL form of player interaction at his leisure.
And that is wrong period. EVE is a persistent universe where ships and pods blow up all the time.
Take that away and it is no longer EVE.

Anyhow the most fat and richest high sec mission runners / miners / freighter accept that they will be ganked eventually.
That is part of protocol. Anything you fly is considered a loss.
Your job is to make sure you make a profit or worth your while before you inadvertently lose it.

Or alternatively fly safe (at least try to fit a tank) or don't pimp your stuff.
Either way PvP is here to stay in EVE.

I just can't wait to see how CCP handles the crap storm when the F2P hits.
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#91 - 2016-09-09 15:54:54 UTC
Zanar Skwigelf wrote:
Sending overwhelming odds is supposed to send a message that you are not welcome and need to leave, not an invite to fight.

Null Sec Residents in a Nutshell:

"N00b - Get out of high sec! You need to come to 0.0 where all the awesome people go!!!"

"Why the $%^& are you in my 0.0 space?!? Get OUT!!!
Send 1000 Svipuls to kill that intruder immediately!!!
Send that idiot back to high sec where he belongs so we can rat in peace!!!11"



Sorry, off topic I know, but I couldn't resist P

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#92 - 2016-09-09 16:00:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Zanar Skwigelf wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Take a look at my alts killboard - L Dopa - I fly him around solo trying to get fights. Almost always in a caracal, cerb, drake or command ship and I'd like to say 9 times out of 10, but more like 99 times out of 100, no one will attack him unless they're at least 5 people or more.

So who really has no balls? The ganking null seccers too scared to risk their space pixels unless they have an enormous advantage or the guys going out there solo to check it out and get ganked... my moneys on the latter.


Why risk losing a ship when an uninvited guest wants an honobru space fight on their time, not yours?

Sending overwhelming odds is supposed to send a message that you are not welcome and need to leave, not an invite to fight.


We see misplaced low sec "solo pvprs" in our space all the time. The get introduced either to one of the Standing fleets of mad miners/ratter, or the Vale Police fleet. LOW SEC and Jita Duels is the place for all that 1v1 crap. Coming into our space that we fought for and maintain and expecting space honorable combat is like breaking into someone's house and challenging them to a wrestling match in their living room.

You break into my house expecting 1v1, you end up experiencing 1vAsManyShotgunsAndGlocksWeCanReachBeforeYouGetSmoked.
Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#93 - 2016-09-09 19:39:22 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Zanar Skwigelf wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Take a look at my alts killboard - L Dopa - I fly him around solo trying to get fights. Almost always in a caracal, cerb, drake or command ship and I'd like to say 9 times out of 10, but more like 99 times out of 100, no one will attack him unless they're at least 5 people or more.

So who really has no balls? The ganking null seccers too scared to risk their space pixels unless they have an enormous advantage or the guys going out there solo to check it out and get ganked... my moneys on the latter.


Why risk losing a ship when an uninvited guest wants an honobru space fight on their time, not yours?

Sending overwhelming odds is supposed to send a message that you are not welcome and need to leave, not an invite to fight.


We see misplaced low sec "solo pvprs" in our space all the time. The get introduced either to one of the Standing fleets of mad miners/ratter, or the Vale Police fleet. LOW SEC and Jita Duels is the place for all that 1v1 crap. Coming into our space that we fought for and maintain and expecting space honorable combat is like breaking into someone's house and challenging them to a wrestling match in their living room.

You break into my house expecting 1v1, you end up experiencing 1vAsManyShotgunsAndGlocksWeCanReachBeforeYouGetSmoked.

And that's how you get fleets of bad pilots.
Instead of trying to learn how to counter with one or two ships, the opportunity to learn how to fight is squandered.

If you blob,
Short term gain: pest removed from house.
Long term loss: fleet doesn't learn how to do anything but F1 monkey.

If you don't,
Short term loss: more pests come looking for fights.
Long term gain: Fleet isn't so helpless when it has to deal with something which might actually hurt it.

A signature :o
Zanar Skwigelf
HIgh Sec Care Bears
Brothers of Tangra
#94 - 2016-09-10 03:34:24 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Zanar Skwigelf wrote:
Sending overwhelming odds is supposed to send a message that you are not welcome and need to leave, not an invite to fight.

Null Sec Residents in a Nutshell:

"N00b - Get out of high sec! You need to come to 0.0 where all the awesome people go!!!"

"Why the $%^& are you in my 0.0 space?!? Get OUT!!!
Send 1000 Svipuls to kill that intruder immediately!!!
Send that idiot back to high sec where he belongs so we can rat in peace!!!11"



Sorry, off topic I know, but I couldn't resist P


I never said go back to high sec, I don't want anyone to go back to high sec. I also don't care if people leave High sec for low, null, or wormholes, as long as they leave high sec.


Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
And that's how you get fleets of bad pilots.
Instead of trying to learn how to counter with one or two ships, the opportunity to learn how to fight is squandered.

If you blob,
Short term gain: pest removed from house.
Long term loss: fleet doesn't learn how to do anything but F1 monkey.

If you don't,
Short term loss: more pests come looking for fights.
Long term gain: Fleet isn't so helpless when it has to deal with something which might actually hurt it.


I don't know about you, but I would not join a null ratting corp to learn how to PvP.

The mindset that more pests come looking for fights if we fight back is sometimes true and sometimes isn't. It depends on how they got to us, and where they live. We have some daily visitors, and there are groups we have only seen once.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#95 - 2016-09-10 03:50:10 UTC
Great idea. I would LOVE to see a 'Carebear' tag on portraits with numerous PvE losses. It would look something like the 'Wanted' brand on portraits of characters with bounties.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#96 - 2016-09-10 06:06:56 UTC
Tappits wrote:
I for one think Empire is one of the most scary places in eve because most of the time there is no direct way to fight back if someone would like to kill you there.

TIL PL's guns don't work in highsec.

You know if someone shoots you and gains a timer, you can freely engage them as can any other player.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#97 - 2016-09-10 06:19:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Tappits wrote:
I for one think Empire is one of the most scary places in eve because most of the time there is no direct way to fight back if someone would like to kill you there.

TIL PL's guns don't work in highsec.

You know if someone shoots you and gains a timer, you can freely engage them as can any other player.

Not exactly useful when the ships are disposable and already vaporised by Concord.

Also not useful when say you're docking in Jita in your buzzard and a random thrasher insta pops you and his alt scoops then docks to wait out timer.

The excuse you have is the same tired old one all pro gankers give while secretly or not so secretly knowing there is no real way to counter the alt ganker. Even if you manage to activate a kill right and gank him back it'll just be a max 10 mill disposable gank ship that'll never make up the damage you sustained.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#98 - 2016-09-10 06:47:40 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
The excuse you have is the same tired old one all pro gankers give while secretly or not so secretly knowing there is no real way to counter the alt ganker. Even if you manage to activate a kill right and gank him back it'll just be a max 10 mill disposable gank ship that'll never make up the damage you sustained.

I know that to many your stupidity was confirmed a long time ago, but it doesn't take much research to find out I'm not a ganker, but an industrialist.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Lucy Lollipops
State War Academy
Caldari State
#99 - 2016-09-10 07:11:09 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
The excuse you have is the same tired old one all pro gankers give while secretly or not so secretly knowing there is no real way to counter the alt ganker. Even if you manage to activate a kill right and gank him back it'll just be a max 10 mill disposable gank ship that'll never make up the damage you sustained.

I know that to many your stupidity was confirmed a long time ago, but it doesn't take much research to find out I'm not a ganker, but an industrialist.


You are most probably the alt of Ima Wreckyou so I suppose she's perfectly aware of that...
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#100 - 2016-09-10 07:23:32 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
The excuse you have is the same tired old one all pro gankers give while secretly or not so secretly knowing there is no real way to counter the alt ganker. Even if you manage to activate a kill right and gank him back it'll just be a max 10 mill disposable gank ship that'll never make up the damage you sustained.

I know that to many your stupidity was confirmed a long time ago, but it doesn't take much research to find out I'm not a ganker, but an industrialist.


Yea lol.

Some people can't understand that the counter to gankers is not to get ganked and/or to leverage the power of groups. Some how the majority manages this.