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Biochemical Reactors in High Sec

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Jan Minayin
Black Rise Munitions
#21 - 2016-08-29 17:00:54 UTC
Not all change is good, and accusing your opponent of being unable to adapt isn't a valid argument towards a proposed change.

Changes should be evaluated based on the good of the game, which as a user of these forums you may be surprised to hear do not revolve solely around the needs of hisec players.

Do you have any solid arguments that this change would be good for the game at large, rather than just make your drug manufacturing operation risk free?
Temba Mapindazi
#22 - 2016-08-29 17:16:21 UTC
Jan Minayin wrote:
Not all change is good, and accusing your opponent of being unable to adapt isn't a valid argument towards a proposed change.

Changes should be evaluated based on the good of the game, which as a user of these forums you may be surprised to hear do not revolve solely around the needs of hisec players.

Do you have any solid arguments that this change would be good for the game at large, rather than just make your drug manufacturing operation risk free?
You are attempting to create a straw man argument. Nothing in what I said or proposed created a risk free drug manufacturing operation. Your straw man fails.

Solid argument, an expanding market is indeed good for the entire game. More drug products being created by players, mined by players, consumed by players, in more facilities built by players in more areas of New Eden is the definition of good for the game.

Gas needs to be obtained from gas clouds, where they spawn is not a part of what I am asking the CSM to modify, so your risk free argument is just plain factually incorrect.

A combat pilot must have two goals to survive,  #1 get the first shot in every fight , #2 get the last shot in every fight!
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#23 - 2016-08-30 06:35:35 UTC
SynthesisX wrote:
Why you posing bro?

You are a high sec ganker.

You don't live in lower security space.

You only shoot targets that don't shoot back. You don't know diddly about low sec industrialists.

You played yourself trying to play me but your gank record shows you never go to low sec.

High sec ganking of mining ships is not PVP, it's cowardice.

Real men shoot things that shoot back.

Talk about regions of space you inhabit, try not to live the lie here in the forums.

Your opinion will be respected when you don't pretend to know about regions you don't have the spine to visit.

c o d e stands for Cowards Offer Dumb Explanations

You're excused from this discussion because you are a fraud, 100% horse pucky.

Those tears are incredible. It almost makes you wonder what the story is behind them.

Apart from that. No, you should not be able to produce drugs in Highsec.

Evil RatKid
SynthesisX
#24 - 2016-09-09 21:11:19 UTC
Interesting that the high sec gankers are the biggest opponents of this change of restricting production only to lower security space, where they never go.

Sounds like they are tearing up because the use of boosters will make their targets a little tougher to gank in the time they have before Concord kills them.

They are afraid a little risk might be injected into their current sure thing.

Their forum tears are quite interesting.

Obviously anything that might offset their balancing act scares the hell out of them.

Towards that end I am going to distribute drugs that boost shields in systems that have a high gank kill total and see if we can rebalance the scales.

Going to build a lot of warp stabs also, giving them as gifts/ deterrents will cause a little ripple.

One of the good thing about being a builder, I can decide to gift anything I can make, and trust me that is a lot.

I will post a thread on the results if we can get ganks to fail more often. Making it a little more dangerous in high sec for gankers fits right inline with EVE philosophy, or at least as it should be, no guaranteed results when you undock, just risk, danger, and the possibility of getting what you want done.
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