EVE General Discussion

Someone who thinks that a 15 jump detour to get around a chokepoint is a 'potential back door' has never played Eve.

Do not reward the lazy, for laziness is a sin. And honestly, to give people the ability to get somewhere in moments with setting autopilot just makes this game that much worse. Autopilot to zero would bring players to their knees as it would almost completely remove all travel of any kind that is sub-warp.

What do you have to do in this game that is sub-warp?

Nothing. Nothing. You warp to everywhere. Once you are at your destination you basically activate the next "instance" as it were. For missions and heavenly bodies, this is a little different but you still are warping directly to your destination.

I never regarded manually WTZ as "gameplay". If it is, it's the most boring gameplay in a gameplay ever (after mining). And gameplay shouldn't be boring, at least it's not why I play games, to get bored - although it may be different for you.

It's a tedious chore, that's why I usually use Interceptors to autopilot through highsec. And well how much gameplay is going to the shop, do your laundry to come back and have you ship reached its destination.
Outside highsec it's a different story, of course.

Oh well, this rose up quite a debate after all!

@Hershman: No, nothing changed, this is (or at least has become) a "what if" discussion.

To the "no warp to 0 hurts frieghters too much" argument, I would answer that while this is true, it also enhances the advantage of using a smaller, yet faster ship. As far as I know, "bigger is better" is not a desired philosophy in this game.

As for the frailness of haulers in general, as it was brought up in this thread, that the real problem is that there is no real point in escorting haulers, since you can't help them anyway. Would a bigger (read tenfold) buffer tank fix this, or do we need some other form of assisting frail fleet members in general (EWAR, projected buffer, whatever) ?

The warp bubble mechanic seems as a possible way to remove the WTZ feature for gates and other structures. This could be justified storywise by a new discovery about the negative effects of warp fields on their surroundings, thus justifying new rules.

This could also apply to jumpdrives, by scrambling outgoing traffic and cyno field generation within a certain radius of said structures.

It would make New Eden a bigger place, but that's a good thing IMO.

/discuss further !

Well put. While I understand the OP, he/she should try to move his assets in a hauler 20 jumps away. It is not fun. Also only highsec couriers will be affected. Lowsec/Zerosec have jump drives and jump bridges.

In the wt15km times, when the corp moved systems, we sent 1 or 2 scouts to create the instas and then everybody else moved. Also some of us had FULL insta BMs set (every reagion and every gate/station). That was some wasted data. Starting a copy of a region set was a PvP tactic to lag out the system and catch the enemy unprepared.

Travel times are much better now. I can see more of New Eden during my game time.

So you can travel much faster by manually warping to 0 than by autopilot? I've returned to Eve after like 5 years and I did not yet notice... ty for the info :)