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Darth Terona
Horde Vanguard.
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2016-09-09 07:06:40 UTC
Plexing does not count twords being subscribed?

I'm going to be cut out of the rewards because I'm clever enuff to not have to pay for my account?

I mean. Ccp got their money either way. So I don't think it's right to not include us who plex.
sero Hita
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#2 - 2016-09-09 07:35:11 UTC  |  Edited by: sero Hita
Darth Terona wrote:
Plexing does not count twords being subscribed?

I'm going to be cut out of the rewards because I'm clever enuff to not have to pay for my account?

I mean. Ccp got their money either way. So I don't think it's right to not include us who plex.


Sorry, for the harsh answer, but I think it is justified.

Funny wording. You think us who subscribe, are not clever enough to plex? we are though, we just chose not to. Lets be honest it does not require that much to get the ~1bill a month. That does not require cleverness but just that you have time to grind, so get over yourself. CCP makes many events rewarding those with time to grind.

Now you are annoyed that they want to reward to players who are loyal, but might not have the time to grind (Never having recieved the rewards of all the different PVE events). With all due respect, you sound like a spoiled brat, sir. Like you playing EVE without paying is not reward enough in itself? Entitlement removes the illusion of the very trait you claim to have, cleverness. I am fine with CCP rewarding all their player types. You don't see me ***** moan about the grindy events, how unfair it is to the people with no time, and they should make the reward available to me. In life you don't everything, now would be a good time to learn to deal with this.

"I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec. Got T-shirts from every which-where.. But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp." RealFlisker

Darth Terona
Horde Vanguard.
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2016-09-09 07:42:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Darth Terona
Clever, because I don't grind.

I never ment to offend the subscribers, however my my plexing generates the same revenue for the company as a subscriber. So I do feel equally entitled to the reward.


And hell. It was more of a question anyway. There is nothing in that mail they sent that indicates plexers will be excluded
Demolishar
United Aggression
#4 - 2016-09-09 07:47:27 UTC
What's all this about?

Darth Terona
Horde Vanguard.
Pandemic Horde
#5 - 2016-09-09 07:49:55 UTC
Check your email
sero Hita
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#6 - 2016-09-09 07:59:06 UTC
Darth Terona wrote:
Clever, because I don't grind.

I never ment to offend the subscribers, however my my plexing generates the same revenue for the company as a subscriber. So I do feel equally entitled to the reward


Just a heads up, using words like clever about yourself, can make you look arrogant, and modify the tone of the responses yout get.

Don't turn a nice gesture from CCP wanting to reward a subscribers (Which many games do tbh.) into something ugly just because you don't get it. That is selfish. You know one can enjoy CCP doing something for the community without being part of it, right? (Like I have done, with the previous events. I was happy that the little PVE bears got something to enjoy the game with, even if did not apply to me). You should try it, being happy for someone else, it is a nice fuzzy feeling. Don't pee on everyones parade, it is not a colour that suits you.

"I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec. Got T-shirts from every which-where.. But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp." RealFlisker

sero Hita
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2016-09-09 08:05:00 UTC  |  Edited by: sero Hita
Darth Terona wrote:
Plexing does not count twords being subscribed?

I'm going to be cut out of the rewards because I'm clever enuff to not have to pay for my account?

I mean. Ccp got their money either way. So I don't think it's right to not include us who plex.


After reading the email, I think you probably overreact. It does not say, plexed accounts are not included specifically, so I think it actually means active accounts, even if they wrote subsription (which plexes also kinda are). You will get your stuff too. But thx for exposing yourself as a petty person.

Edit: just went to read more page, and indeed it looks like you are right. I am stil fine with this though.
Edit2: this is actually very unclear, on the german homepage it stands like everyone with active accounts for more than one months get it. I am confused now Big smile CCP should clear up their language used.

"I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec. Got T-shirts from every which-where.. But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp." RealFlisker

Darth Terona
Horde Vanguard.
Pandemic Horde
#8 - 2016-09-09 08:15:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Darth Terona
"Edit2: this is actually very unclear, on the german homepage it stands like everyone with active accounts for more than one months get it. I am confused now Big smile CCP should clear up their language used."

Which was my entire point.

Though I was not neutral in my questioning. I wanted to show my stance on the subject as well

And I don't see my point as petty

I too was happy with the pve awards. Gave something to do to many. But I did t have time to do it either.

In that case, you grind for x time and get y reward.


In the case of the subscriber rewards, Ccp basically wants x money for y accounts

My plex for my accounts is equal revenue for Ccp to someone who has subscribed for that time
Both the subscriber and the plexer meet the win condition. Both should be rewarded.
Geronimo McVain
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2016-09-09 08:33:24 UTC
Check the account/playtime side. It's about a subscription not an active account. You can get a subscription from 16.9 till November you get all of it. I don't link it, because I'm German and to lazy to switch the language.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#10 - 2016-09-09 08:37:52 UTC
Who knows what the hell they had in mind.
Its always a mess. I never take seriously anything what they like to write there.
Darth Terona
Horde Vanguard.
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2016-09-09 08:48:34 UTC
guess ill just pony up the 40

just tell me someone gets what I'm saying.
Arianne Kass
NED-Clan
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2016-09-09 08:52:07 UTC
Quote:
Maintain an active subscription from now until the November expansion and your name will be on the list for the following celebratory gifts


I'm reading that as "stay subscribed by either paid subscription or plex", but I could be wrong. No great harm either way.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#13 - 2016-09-09 08:55:30 UTC
from the page
Quote:
To celebrate the massive expansion coming this November, we are offering subscribers a collection of loyalty rewards. Subscribe before 16 September 2016 and maintain an active subscription until November to collect them all.

The rewards are:


  • Three ships available to continuous subscribers from the 16th September 2016 until the expansion launch.
  • Gnosis SKIN, available to all capsuleers who have ever subscribed for at least 1 month at the date of expansion launch
  • Armor suit and goggles set, available to subscribers that have an active plan on the date that the expansion launches.

Rewards will be added to your account in November.

Disclaimer

  • Three ships available to continuous subscribers from the 16th September 2016 until the expansion launch.
  • Gnosis SKIN, available to all capsuleers who have ever subscribed for at least 1 month at the date of expansion launch
  • Armor suit and goggles set, available to subscribers that have an active plan on the date that the expansion launches.

sero Hita
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#14 - 2016-09-09 08:58:43 UTC  |  Edited by: sero Hita
Darth Terona wrote:


My plex for my accounts is equal revenue for Ccp to someone who has subscribed for that time
Both the subscriber and the plexer meet the win condition. Both should be rewarded.

No, the guy who bought the PLEX should be rewarded then, not you. CCP wants to reward paying customers, you are not that, no matter what mental gymnastics you do. You are just playing the game, making an insensitive for people to buy PLEX. The market exist so there is no reason to reward people buying PLEX with isk. With the introduction of alpha clones it also make sense they want as many subscribers as possible, as the general amount of plexers might drop.
So: you do not create revenue, the guy buying the PLEX does. So stop trying to ruining it for the people who actually had to put up some money. No hands- no cookies, just like it should be in a cuttthroat world.

"I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec. Got T-shirts from every which-where.. But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp." RealFlisker

oiukhp Muvila
Doomheim
#15 - 2016-09-09 09:00:10 UTC
Darth Terona wrote:
guess ill just pony up the 40

just tell me someone gets what I'm saying.



Isn't your account actively subscribed? You know we don't have Alpha Clones yet.

Nam Dnilb
Universal Frog
#16 - 2016-09-09 09:00:32 UTC
They want to keep the people who took the 90 Days + 90 Days MCT offer in the summer. This is their leverage I guess. :-)
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#17 - 2016-09-09 09:07:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
Quote:
Subscription and payment
Account Type
Active - Paying with GameTimeCode

Current Subscription
30 Days


That is what I have on account. I think I will get the rewards. Expires years ahead.
Darth Terona
Horde Vanguard.
Pandemic Horde
#18 - 2016-09-09 09:12:46 UTC
sero Hita wrote:
Darth Terona wrote:


My plex for my accounts is equal revenue for Ccp to someone who has subscribed for that time
Both the subscriber and the plexer meet the win condition. Both should be rewarded.

No, the guy who bought the PLEX should be rewarded then, not you. CCP wants to reward paying customers, you are not that, no matter what mental gymnastics you do. You are just playing the game, making an insensitive for people to buy PLEX. The market exist so there is no reason to reward people buying PLEX with isk. With the introduction of alpha clones it also make sense they want as many subscribers as possible, as the general amount of plexers might drop.
So: you do not create revenue, the guy buying the PLEX does. So stop trying to ruining it for the people who actually had to put up some money. No hands- no cookies, just like it should be in a cuttthroat world.



no sir.

because of the plexer, that plex has value..

if not for us, the damn thing would be worthless, and no one would pay real money for them.
sero Hita
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2016-09-09 09:28:54 UTC  |  Edited by: sero Hita
Darth Terona wrote:



no sir.

because of the plexer, that plex has value..

if not for us, the damn thing would be worthless, and no one would pay real money for them.


CCP and I both agree that is not worth a reward being a plex sink. So live with it. You did not loose RL money and does not get the reward. This should not be new to you, as the whole world runs like this.

"I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec. Got T-shirts from every which-where.. But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp." RealFlisker

Darth Terona
Horde Vanguard.
Pandemic Horde
#20 - 2016-09-09 09:30:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Darth Terona
do they?

I think they did not consider it either way.
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