Intergalactic Summit

With regards to the scale of reaction here to offense caused (whether intentional or not) and felt, whether through the adoption of practices while ignorant of their import and cultural value to their native people, or through a simple poor choice of ambigious language Mr Marellus again makes good points, though I disagree with his last - that the reactions are "unnecessary".

As I suggested earlier in this thread, I believe that those comments and responses made, relevant to this particular point, are of substance and value to this discussion. What one person may judge to be of little consequence or value to the debate is at the root of the issue to another.

This particular part of the discussion has been necessary because here we are discussing the Federation on a cultural level, and so cultural sensitivities need to be taken into account. I fully agree that some responses throughout, including my own, may have been better received had they been more tempered but perhaps we participants have allowed our eagerness to get to grips with a facinating look at the Federation from a different angle to get the better of us.

That said, we have each voiced our opinions on this matter and I believe we risk going over old ground, so I shall move on...


I'd actually not stopped to consider your own political ties during this discussion, but learning that your comments are made with a degree of disconnection I can appreciate the value your different perspective provides. I also understand your frustration at the level of debate, though the diplomat in me would draw the line at actual head banging. Believe me your frustrations as a spectator are no greater than my own as a participant, but needs must.

In my previous post I suggested some of my own views on what I called "Intaki principles" as a reflection of one aspect of Federation culture. I gave some examples of where I believe these principles to be evidenced and also how they may go some way to contribute to the wider Federation today. With this in mind I believe that to focus too heavily on Intaki for much longer threatens to derail what I assume to have been the intentions of the opening comments from the General - a look at what it means to be ethnic-Gallente.

Following a brief remark I made earlier that a specific debate looking at the Intaki might be beneficial to those interested in continuing with that particular subject I understand Qansh has been kind enough to start us off with "What it Means to be Intaki" so unless something particularly grabs my attention here this is likely to be my last contribution to the Gallente discussion. I shall however, continue to read with interest.

What it means to be Gallente?


I think you are asking the wrong question. Instead ask, what is it like under the mighty boot of the Caldari?

I can think of about 10 different retorts to this little statement, ranging from the lack of actual systems under Caldari occupation, to the huge amount of money the State corporations wasted with their blind auction of Federation territory that they weren't able to hold, to the complete meaninglessness and futility of the entire campaign as a whole. Or I could say something about the present strength of the Federal economy, and relative weakness of the Caldari one.

But really, talking to someone with a view of reality so distorted is a complete waste of my time, so instead I'll respond to your post by simply saying this: "lmao".

I believe in the purity of Tibus Heth's vision for the Caldari. This includes keeping the Gallente under heel. Dishonor or not, Heth's vision will lead the Caldari into the future.

Last I checked, the Federation is not under the State's heel.

You mean, "Wait.. what? He's in charge now? How the f**k did that happen..."?

Hmm.. Now I understand that, and recognize that it is correct. But out of interest, how is Heth useful? As a political rallying point for radicals? I wouldn't rate him too high as an actual leader myself. He's just a bit too one track 'kill ALL the gallente!' to be truly successful. Well, who knows. Maybe experience will mellow him.

I rather doubt it myself.

Actually, the previously-free people of Harroule and Esesier are currently under the State's heel, unfortunately.

The problem with trying to find common qualities of a culture of individuals is that it's utterly impossible to nail down anything definite about us as a group. And counter to what Bataav has suggested, it isn't Gallente that undermine the Intaki culture, but the decisions of each person that pose the greatest threat to their values. While I cherish and admire what the Intaki has to offer to us, I am concerned the traditionalist's misplaced fears of multiculturalism will encourage isolationist and racist ideas to pervade the larger picture, when the Federation has always embraced the differences of its people.