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Question about loot stealers
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ZmajJovana
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#1 - 2012-01-17 06:44:15 UTC
Hi all,

I just experienced mission-loot stealing. Was working on a lvl4 mission in 0.9 system. Guy appeared, marked red, as if a pirate. I've checked his standing and he was positive. So I assumed it's a bug in displaying status. But guy then started collecting my loot. So I figured out, doesn't matter, anyway I wasn't going to collect it. So I've 'abandoned all nearby wrecks'. Even chatted with that lad a bit.

When I got my final target, I simply assumed that he can't take my mission loot. Doesn't make any sense right? But, he did! And asked for 1mil isk to give it to me.

Now, my question is not if I should pay or not. My question is:

I'm in a 2nd or 3rd room of my mission. No sentry guns or Concord nearby. If I shoot him, will Concord appear from nowhere to fry me? Or will I loose security standing? Or both?

I've searched through forum, but still got it very unclear if in fact, I can do this without consequences.

Char that did this was Patris Tissant, if anyone needs to know. Happened in Kappas (0.9).

If this question was already answered somewhere in forum, I apologize but I really couldn't find it in search.

Thank you.
Biced
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-01-17 07:02:36 UTC
concord will not shoot you.
but he will P
Alec Enderas
Space Wolves ind.
Solyaris Chtonium
#3 - 2012-01-17 07:03:46 UTC
Hi,

this happens quite often.....guy(s) show(s) around at your mission in a cheap ship....steals your loot / mission item.....

here are some basic tips
-Ignore IGNore IGNORE !!! He can't do anything until you shoot at him...but don't do that,
he will just come back in a shiny battleship and shoot the crap out of you
-do another mission in the meantine (another system preferred), get back later
-he stole your mission specific item? SO ? check market / contracts...some are very cheap

+ your mission restarts after downtime....so.....no point paying for anything

PS: if you shoot him, concord wont do anything if he is already red to you.....but you don't want to let him shoot you, do you ?

I am not old, just bitter.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-01-17 07:10:51 UTC
bait the scrub into shooting you and return in a neut legion to roll him

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Endeavour Starfleet
#5 - 2012-01-17 07:17:25 UTC
He wasnt after your loot. He wanted to destroy you.

After you shoot at him he will either warp off or warp in an alt with a DPS ship. And WTFpwn you. Don't pay him. Wait until DT and do the mission again.
ZmajJovana
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#6 - 2012-01-17 07:26:27 UTC
Thanks to all for advise.

I assumed it gotta be something fishy, as it would be too easy to kill him in that small ship. So I backed off and made this post.

I really hope that CCP can at least make it impossible for anyone to take one particular item from the wreck, which is mission-dependent.
Levija Saplina
Ken Interplanetary Communication
#7 - 2012-01-17 07:53:33 UTC
ZmajJovana wrote:
Thanks to all for advise.

I assumed it gotta be something fishy, as it would be too easy to kill him in that small ship. So I backed off and made this post.

I really hope that CCP can at least make it impossible for anyone to take one particular item from the wreck, which is mission-dependent.



This is not World of Warcraft of Guild Wars.

Welcome to EVE though.
Endeavour Starfleet
#8 - 2012-01-17 08:20:17 UTC
I do have to agree about the prevent taking of critical item part.

Everything else is a valid thieving target but mission critical loot should be reserved at this time. Otherwise it is just asking for more petitions to be filed.
ZmajJovana
Strategic Exploration and Development Corp
Silent Company
#9 - 2012-01-17 08:21:43 UTC
Levija Saplina wrote:


This is not World of Warcraft of Guild Wars.

Welcome to EVE though.


Um.. whats the purpose of your comment?

It's obvious that EVE and WoW are two different products/services. WoW is a family-friendly game, where parents can play with their kids and not be disturbed by rats. EVE is for passionate gamers and SF fans.

I wasn't complaining. Just was curious why would someone steal someone's mission loot, during mission combat, and if agrro on that player will be sanctioned by Concord. That's all I asked.

Piracy - great. Did it myself with other alt. But this is way too low. Where's honor in that?
Swiftsoul Tian
Hardcore Smoochies
#10 - 2012-01-17 08:42:47 UTC
ZmajJovana wrote:

...
I wasn't complaining. Just was curious why would someone steal someone's mission loot, during mission combat, and if agrro on that player will be sanctioned by Concord. That's all I asked.

Piracy - great. Did it myself with other alt. But this is way too low. Where's honor in that?


If he steals from you, you can shot him without being sanctioned by Concord but then he is allowed to shot back without any consequences too.

You can try to report him for harassment but until he does it excessively, it's very unlikely that CCP will care about it. It's part of the game to disturb others mission.

About honor - it's a game, nothing is honorable about playing a game - regardless how you play it.
Ifly Uwalk
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-01-17 09:34:28 UTC
ZmajJovana wrote:
...EVE...honor

Oxymoron detected.
Swiftsoul Tian
Hardcore Smoochies
#12 - 2012-01-17 09:54:25 UTC
Ifly Uwalk wrote:
ZmajJovana wrote:
...EVE...honor

Oxymoron detected.


Hey, I just learned a new word - thanks for that ^^
Aggressive Nutmeg
#13 - 2012-01-17 11:04:46 UTC
It is a bit silly that your agent sends you off on some super secret mission only to have some loser easily scan it down and join the party. What?

0/10 for reality.

As usual, forget logic and common sense and make sure you understand how this EVE game mechanic works.

Mission invaders are usually trying to pick fights with what they perceive to be easy targets. They're at the bottom of the EVE food chain.

If you're a newbie just ignore them. But when you're more skilled, use yourself as bait and lay traps for these losers. Pirate

Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana.
Killa Von Murderer
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-01-17 11:05:11 UTC
ZmajJovana wrote:
Where's honor in that?



You must be new to C&P.
meatsaw
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-01-17 11:33:47 UTC  |  Edited by: meatsaw
I saw this quote somewhere for newbies pretty much sums up Eve..








































Welcome to EvE, **** You!
Alec Enderas
Space Wolves ind.
Solyaris Chtonium
#16 - 2012-01-17 11:49:05 UTC
meatsaw wrote:
I saw this quote somewhere for newbies pretty much sums up Eve..








































Welcome to EvE, **** You!


Wow, really awesome....just describes everything...but seriously, is this supposed to be just empty space ?

I am not old, just bitter.
meatsaw
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-01-17 11:51:34 UTC
Alec Enderas wrote:
meatsaw wrote:
I saw this quote somewhere for newbies pretty much sums up Eve..




Dramatic pause punchline, yep gay as!








































Welcome to EvE, **** You!


Wow, really awesome....just describes everything...but seriously, is this supposed to be just empty space ?
Alec Enderas
Space Wolves ind.
Solyaris Chtonium
#18 - 2012-01-17 11:53:28 UTC
OK then, i would suggest putting this in between: www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU

I am not old, just bitter.
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#19 - 2012-01-17 12:45:47 UTC
Aggressive Nutmeg wrote:
It is a bit silly that your agent sends you off on some super secret mission only to have some loser easily scan it down and join the party. What?

0/10 for reality.

As usual, forget logic and common sense and make sure you understand how this EVE game mechanic works.


They are not scanning down your 'super secret mission', they are scanning for your ship in space. Fairly realistic as far as things can be in Eve.

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
Levija Saplina
Ken Interplanetary Communication
#20 - 2012-01-17 12:48:41 UTC
Aggressive Nutmeg wrote:
It is a bit silly that your agent sends you off on some super secret mission only to have some loser easily scan it down and join the party. What?

0/10 for reality.

As usual, forget logic and common sense and make sure you understand how this EVE game mechanic works.

Mission invaders are usually trying to pick fights with what they perceive to be easy targets. They're at the bottom of the EVE food chain.

If you're a newbie just ignore them. But when you're more skilled, use yourself as bait and lay traps for these losers. Pirate


So you mean that in the real world, when an FSB agent tracks down a CIA agent (or vice versa) to steal from him supa dupa secret documents it's unrealistic and these people should be banned from real life for abusing the system ?

Please ...
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