Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You're in a frigate ... Just fly out and get it.

Only level 4 missions are worth salvaging and looting, so unless this would be used to ded sites, I don't see any reason to add this.

Also as already stated, a frigate is more than fast enough to fly to the wreck / can and loot...

I recently ran an L2 mission and the loot total not including salvage was around 4 million thus it would have paid for the mini tractor unit (since one would expect it to cost quite a bit less) (admit that that much ISK from an L2 is rare but i had to pass on a lot of loot simply because flying around to pick it up would have taken so long).

Also, all the respondents so far are probably bittervets by now sitting on billions that have long forgot how it was to be dirt poor. I recently started a new acct and didnt give them any ISK to work with, ground up, no assistance. I found myself wanting that loot in a bad way since at first you are spending a lot and making practically nothing form bounties, completion or LP.

Also, Tabyll Altol, exactly what is a cargo expander going to do for me, i need the items tractored making my cargo hold bigger solves exactly nothing.

How about we ask nicely if we could get a boat that would be able to salvage and tractor wrecks in very quickly?

Maybe that boat would get a nice large cargo hold, a range bonus for tractors and salvagers and even lots of high slots.

That would be one cool boat.

If only there was such a ship... We could call it an Awesome Tractor Beam Mobile. Or a Noctis?

CCP better come up with a way better name for it, though. No offense Diomedes, but Noctis just sounds like some hideously vile creature spawned only from the deepest, dankest, smelliest trash-festering **** pit from hell. Hardly the loot-scooping money maker you and elitetwo are describing.

A "Noctis"? No one's gonna want to fly that.

Jokes aside, the very same argument was raised several times before when MTU's were first introduced. And for the most part, no big surprise here, I saw the very same counterpoints returned...and I still find their reasoning more sound and on point. Most L1-2 aren't even worth your time even if you had an MTU to throw out there despite the 100-125 cubic meter bar, let alone one that costs less cargo but had weaker stats to compensate. I'd have to agree with others now and those before that such an idea is rather pointless. It's almost pointless for a BS to bring one on quite a few L4's for that matter. You're better off blitzing the unholy crap out of an L1 and rushing back to your agent to snatch another op than worry about shooting and scooping.

By the same logic we get rid of MTUs altogether because you can use a noctis to tractor and loot for any ship.......

Obviously the noctis is better, it's tractor speed is way faster albeit with lower lock ranges and can tractor multiple items

The mtu I agree could be a little smaller. Though I believe one exists that is 50 or 75 and that's the magpie tractor

Which is expensive as hell and for a newbro that is just the opposite of what he would want. He wants a small, cheaper MTU.

Now i have to lose a mod slot to have an MTU when other larger ships do not, no thank you. In particular armor tanked ships would be hurt a lot by this as lows are where their tank AND damage mods fit.