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[GalFed] Villore Assembly resolution on the crowning of Empress Catiz

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Alizebeth Amalath
Doomheim
#81 - 2016-09-06 22:11:25 UTC
The demand is that they be allowed to come regardless. Gallente citizens do not have any right to step foot on Amarr Prime or any other planet in the Holy Amarr Empire.

Lord Ibrahim's announcement is how this should have happened.
Julianus Soter
Blades of Liberty
#82 - 2016-09-06 22:36:05 UTC
Ibrahim Tash-Murkon wrote:
Official Society Press Release

On the most auspicious occasion of the upcoming Coronation of Her Imperial Majesty the Society wishes to extend an invitation to the Villore Assembly Delegation to observe this historic event from a well-situated venue on Amarr Prime with the delegation afforded full diplomatic rights, status, and credentials insofar as they are grantable in my capacity as Chief Diplomat of the Society and under the official recognition and as guests of Dar-al Barakah. We have submitted the appropriate notification with the Ministry of Internal Order.

In this glorious season we have only open arms for all who come in peace to witness the formal crowning of Her Imperial Majesty as Empress and we in particular would most wish for the Villore Assembly's delegates to be our guests.

Peace in our time!

[signed]
Lord Ibrahim (Legatus)


As Chairman of the Federation-Empire Relations committee, I gratefully accept the invitation of the Society. Our delegation is extremely eager to attend this historic event and facilitate a new understanding between our peoples.

Regards,

Julianus Soter

Moira. Corporation CEO, Executor, Villore Accords, @Julianus_Soter https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99001634/
Nicoletta Mithra
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#83 - 2016-09-06 22:36:16 UTC
Where in the resolution do you read of any such demand? You seem like a master of eisegesis.

And yes, Lord Ibrahim is to commend for taking an outstretched hand and leading it on the proper path. He's acting like a proper Holder and Amarr should, where others merely complained about formalities.
Alizebeth Amalath
Doomheim
#84 - 2016-09-06 22:45:18 UTC
Point the first was clearly that they are assembling a delegation to come. Not requesting an invitation for a delegation to come, but that they are coming.
Tressith Sefira
Nadire Security Consultants
Federation Peacekeepers
#85 - 2016-09-06 22:48:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Tressith Sefira
Gosh I'm real excited to see everyone at the coronation and the mixer party! I hope we'll have a lotta fun and I can't wait to see my friends! I'll have to buy a fancy dress again. My last one got shredded bad.

Captain Mithra, I'm still super hyped to visit you and your estate too, when I've returned from planetside leave. I haven't forgotten! Pinky promise.
Mitara Newelle
Newelle Family
#86 - 2016-09-06 23:02:13 UTC
This has been a difficult conversation to follow. Diplomacy is not something I am suited for, so that may be the impediment to understanding.

Can someone explain this to me?
Xun Yu wrote:
These requests have been endorsed by observers from Amarrian organisations...

James Syagrius wrote:
Indeed we will, we are not asking the Empire for anything, we are asking the Federal authorities to include members of the Assembly in their delegation...

Is it common to seek assistance from foreigners when petitioning your own government in the Federation?

Again, I am no diplomat, but I imagine here in the Empire this is likely to work against you.

Lady Mitara Newelle of House Sarum, Holder of the Mekhios province of Damnidios Para'nashu, Champion of House Sarum, Sworn Upholder of the Faith, Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Admiral of Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Mitara Newelle
Newelle Family
#87 - 2016-09-06 23:18:09 UTC
Nicoletta Mithra wrote:
The Scripture says: "The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited." But beware, you who judges like this, for you are not God, nor alike to him. Your understanding is limited and your judgement easily misplaced. He is perfect - you though, are imperfect.

Therefore, you should rather remind yourself of what Scripture says thereafter: "The Mercy of our Emperor is Limitless. His Rule is Benign and Righteous. His Love is Perpetual." You do good to be merciful, benign and righteous and show love in your imperfection! Take these traits and the Emperor as your model. Don't adivse others on their failures first...


You seem to have left out the passages in between, Ms Mithra -

"Be Careful. Pure Thought is the Instigator of Sin.
Be Watchful. Free Thought is the Begetter of Disorder.
Be Respectful. Uniform Thought is the Way of Life."

The Mercy of the Emperor is limitless, true, but it is our duty to Be Careful, Be Watchful, and Be Respectful of the Way.

This announcement rightly, or wrongly, was thought by the Faithful and those outside the Faith alike to be targeted at Amarr. I believe our Brothers and Sisters, and some foreigners it seems, were letting the Villore Assembly know this was not proper decorum.

Of course, I may be mistaken in their motives, I am but an observer to these proceedings.

Lady Mitara Newelle of House Sarum, Holder of the Mekhios province of Damnidios Para'nashu, Champion of House Sarum, Sworn Upholder of the Faith, Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Admiral of Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#88 - 2016-09-06 23:31:46 UTC
Mitara Newelle wrote:

This announcement rightly, or wrongly, was thought by the Faithful and those outside the Faith alike to be targeted at Amarr. I believe our Brothers and Sisters, and some foreigners it seems, were letting the Villore Assembly know this was not proper decorum.

I think that my lady has the right of it. The Gallente have brought people together: Minmatar and Amarr all in agreement about their criticism of the Villore Accords. God does work in mysterious ways.

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.
Neph
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#89 - 2016-09-06 23:35:44 UTC
Alizabeth Vea wrote:
Mitara Newelle wrote:

This announcement rightly, or wrongly, was thought by the Faithful and those outside the Faith alike to be targeted at Amarr. I believe our Brothers and Sisters, and some foreigners it seems, were letting the Villore Assembly know this was not proper decorum.

I think that my lady has the right of it. The Gallente have brought people together: Minmatar and Amarr all in agreement about their criticism of the Villore Accords. God does work in mysterious ways.


Who could have guessed it were more egger corporations with overinflated sense of self-worth that would actually usher in the New Age of Peace?

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Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#90 - 2016-09-07 00:00:37 UTC
What's the old saying: the fastest way to get the right answer on the galnet is to say the wrong answer?

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.
Kolodi Ramal
Sanxing Yi
#91 - 2016-09-07 00:10:33 UTC
Alizabeth Vea wrote:
Minmatar and Amarr all in agreement about their criticism of the Villore Accords.

One Minmatar whose careless aspersing is a matter of debate and disagreement on our shared homeplanet. Athryn Noduri of Ru (Teinyhr) has a valid point or two but the way she chose to make them is considered shameful by some Vherokior subtribes and clans. You're not supposed to turn around and urinate on the people inside your own tent. Care with words is of cultural importance to many Vherokior because of our large involvement in commerce but supporting "our own" is important too.
If Teinyhr really supported the Villore Assembly and our Federal allies, she would have made her objections in private. Her choice to make her objections public and persistent is an act of disrespect for everything the Assembly has done and every person in the Assembly who's trying to make the world a little better.
(This post is going to earn me some flak but in subtribe Lunhis it's acceptable to respond to public bad behavior of this type with public censure.)
Nicoletta Mithra
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#92 - 2016-09-07 00:13:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicoletta Mithra
Mitara Newelle wrote:
You seem to have left out the passages in between, Ms Mithra -

"Be Careful. Pure Thought is the Instigator of Sin.
Be Watchful. Free Thought is the Begetter of Disorder.
Be Respectful. Uniform Thought is the Way of Life."

The Mercy of the Emperor is limitless, true, but it is our duty to Be Careful, Be Watchful, and Be Respectful of the Way.

This announcement rightly, or wrongly, was thought by the Faithful and those outside the Faith alike to be targeted at Amarr. I believe our Brothers and Sisters, and some foreigners it seems, were letting the Villore Assembly know this was not proper decorum.

Of course, I may be mistaken in their motives, I am but an observer to these proceedings.

Lady Newelle,

indeed I left those lines out, knowingly so. You will note: They are addressed to the reader: That is the Amarr faithful. It's your Thought that you're supposed to police first and foremost.

As I said: The post might have lacked proper - in the eyes of the Amarr and maybe some foreigner - decorum. What I criticised is that many were more than happy to leave it not at merely pointing that out, but even further chastising it and beyond that reading all kinds of impoliteness into the original post, that no one needs to read into it.
All that while making no efforts whatsoever to remedy the situation, to educate or otherwise ameliorate the situation at hand, rather enjoying the failings of their brothers and sisters and even more so enjoying to use this as an opportunity to point out their own superiority.
Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#93 - 2016-09-07 00:19:10 UTC
Kolodi Ramal wrote:
(This post is going to earn me some flak but in subtribe Lunhis it's acceptable to respond to public bad behavior of this type with public censure.)
You realize that you just justified every post criticizing your original one? I'm not Minmatar, but still.

I think the term is: game on.

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.
Charles Cambridge Schmidt
Nadire Security Consultants
Federation Peacekeepers
#94 - 2016-09-07 00:38:22 UTC
Tressith Sefira wrote:
Gosh I'm real excited to see everyone at the coronation and the mixer party! I hope we'll have a lotta fun and I can't wait to see my friends! I'll have to buy a fancy dress again. My last one got shredded bad.



Triss, I can cook you up a dress if you'd like. I'm pretty sure I still have your measurements on-file if that last batch of stuff I made for you is any indication. When I'm done with my brief stint planetside would you like to come in to my new tailoring suite? I'd love to help you out for something like this. After all, I do feel somewhat responsible!

What happened to the last one, by the way? Fall into a pit of razors?

I don't care what you think, as long as it's about me.
Tressith Sefira
Nadire Security Consultants
Federation Peacekeepers
#95 - 2016-09-07 00:53:13 UTC
Charles Cambridge Schmidt wrote:



Triss, I can cook you up a dress if you'd like. I'm pretty sure I still have your measurements on-file if that last batch of stuff I made for you is any indication. When I'm done with my brief stint planetside would you like to come in to my new tailoring suite? I'd love to help you out for something like this. After all, I do feel somewhat responsible!

What happened to the last one, by the way? Fall into a pit of razors?


Like?! I'd LOVE it! I'd love to see where you work too! What kinda dress d'ya think would look good? Asymmetrical? Halter top? Fishtail? Uhhhhh, bell bottom?

So I was at a fundraising gala in Voxam to welcome an influx of refugees from the next system over and fundraise to take care of their immediate housing needs when this jokester lad pops a smoke bomb into the floor and slaps poppers under people's feet. No big deal but insteada letting it go I bolt after him because he's an excuse to not have to be there. The kid bolts into the fenced yard of the rich guy next door but didn't pay any mind to the "beware of dogs" sign hangin' off the fence. Long story short, teeth. Lots of sharp teeth.
Charles Cambridge Schmidt
Nadire Security Consultants
Federation Peacekeepers
#96 - 2016-09-07 00:59:31 UTC
Tressith Sefira wrote:


Like?! I'd LOVE it! I'd love to see where you work too! What kinda dress d'ya think would look good? Asymmetrical? Halter top? Fishtail? Uhhhhh, bell bottom?

So I was at a fundraising gala in Voxam to welcome an influx of refugees from the next system over and fundraise to take care of their immediate housing needs when this jokester lad pops a smoke bomb into the floor and slaps poppers under people's feet. No big deal but insteada letting it go I bolt after him because he's an excuse to not have to be there. The kid bolts into the fenced yard of the rich guy next door but didn't pay any mind to the "beware of dogs" sign hangin' off the fence. Long story short, teeth. Lots of sharp teeth.



When I take you in to the shop we can test out several different designs and how they'd look on you via some fancy schmancy tech mumbo jumbo I don't really feel like explaining right now. I think a dress that shows off your arms would be best, though. Muscles, man. Muscles.

Also, don't fall into a pit of dogs. That's arguably worse than a pit of razors.

I don't care what you think, as long as it's about me.
Tressith Sefira
Nadire Security Consultants
Federation Peacekeepers
#97 - 2016-09-07 01:03:20 UTC
Charles Cambridge Schmidt wrote:
When I take you in to the shop we can test out several different designs and how they'd look on you via some fancy schmancy tech mumbo jumbo I don't really feel like explaining right now. I think a dress that shows off your arms would be best, though. Muscles, man. Muscles.

Also, don't fall into a pit of dogs. That's arguably worse than a pit of razors.


So like sleeveless? Ok that's the top. But what about the neckline and the shoulders and the bottom? I like high necked dresses like those Caldari ones! And what color? I can't wear so many colors because of my hair. Are there like recommended colors that folk wear to Amarr stuff?

I didn't fall in! I jumped in to stop the dogs from ripping the poor lad into pieces. He didn't deserve that. But then neither did my sad dress!
Nicoletta Mithra
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#98 - 2016-09-07 01:05:10 UTC
If you visit me before getting your new dress done, I'd be more than happy to gift some of our reknowned spidersilk to you. It'll make sure that some dogteeth don't shred it to pieces so easily again.
Tressith Sefira
Nadire Security Consultants
Federation Peacekeepers
#99 - 2016-09-07 01:12:36 UTC
Nicoletta Mithra wrote:
If you visit me before getting your new dress done, I'd be more than happy to gift some of our reknowned spidersilk to you. It'll make sure that some dogteeth don't shred it to pieces so easily again.



Gosh though your makeup and jewelry is so pretty and tasteful! Maybe we could go to Charlie's tailoring studio together and you could help give me advice on like what'd be considered right and proper in Amarrian fashions?

Spider silk sounds beautiful! What is it? Is it durable?
Charles Cambridge Schmidt
Nadire Security Consultants
Federation Peacekeepers
#100 - 2016-09-07 01:15:37 UTC
Tressith Sefira wrote:
Maybe we could go to Charlie's tailoring studio together and you could help give me advice on like what'd be considered right and proper in Amarrian fashions?

Spider silk sounds beautiful! What is it? Is it durable?



I wouldn't mind hosting you both. Spider silk is extraordinarily strong, and comes from this little creepy weird thing that'll give you nightmares, and it's very, very, very very very very soft. I've not got the chance to use it yet. Maybe soon, hopefully!

I don't care what you think, as long as it's about me.