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Clone States Economy Predictions

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SuperHanz Solo
Solo Enterprises
#1 - 2016-09-03 22:43:20 UTC
Hi all,

I'm a relatively new player with a bank roll of about 400mil. This has mainly come from running WH relic and data sites in a T1 frigate.

Im thinking that the increase in players may cause ammo prices to increase, so I'm putting all my ISK into ammo before the update.

What are your economy predictions for a Clone State Eve?
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2016-09-03 22:54:44 UTC
Definitely put all 400 mil in ammo

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#3 - 2016-09-03 23:00:37 UTC
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#4 - 2016-09-03 23:06:06 UTC
You probably want to post in the Market Discussion forum area.

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Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#5 - 2016-09-04 08:53:24 UTC
Demand for ammo will increase but so will supply. A lot of this stuff drops as loot and it's easy to make - even with Alpha skills. I expect a lot more interest in meta modules since Alpha characters are locked out of T2 and players can't make them (yet). If I was going to speculate on the market (I'm not) I would look at stuff like Prototype EANM, Limited Invulnerability Field, etc...
voetius
Grundrisse
#6 - 2016-09-04 09:13:45 UTC

As Do Little said, I think meta modules / guns / launchers are going to be in more demand and there is more of a barrier to supply due to their source than T1 ammo which can be produced in vast quantities quickly.

Faction ammo is a different matter though and that has a barrier to high volumes due to needing LP and competing with other forms of LP cashouts.

Finally, as the alphas will be allowed to train up to Cybernetics 3 according to the dev blog cheap implants and hardwires should see an increased demand.

Doc is right though, Market Discussions would be a better place to discuss this.

TL;DR meta modules frigate and cruiser sized, faction ammo, hardwires and implants (my predition FWIW).
oiukhp Muvila
Doomheim
#7 - 2016-09-04 09:21:39 UTC
Will Alphas be able to fly Faction Navy ships?
Solecist Project
#8 - 2016-09-04 09:59:58 UTC
Decrease.
Assuming they can do industry, which they can, iirc.

Expect prices of everything to drop within months ...
... because stupid people will mine their minerals for free ...
... and undercut everyone around senselessly.

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Serene Repose
#9 - 2016-09-04 12:13:21 UTC
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ISD Max Trix
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ISD Alliance
#10 - 2016-09-04 18:38:59 UTC
Moved to Market discussions.

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Morgan Agrivar
Doomheim
#11 - 2016-09-04 23:15:52 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
"An economist is an expert who will know tomorrow why the things he predicted yesterday didn't happen today. "

-Evan Esar

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Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#12 - 2016-09-05 05:28:08 UTC
Morgan Agrivar wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
"An economist is an expert who will know tomorrow why the things he predicted yesterday didn't happen today. "

-Evan Esar

Economists and Meterologists are the two professions that can be wrong all the time and still keep their jobs. Big smile

Big smile

If you kept asking Historians to predict the future you would probably get similar results.

Maybe the issue here is that we keep asking people that are not blessed with the gift of prescience to predict the future in a system that is too complicated to reliably predict. It's particularly bad for Economists, because making a public prediction could change the state of the system on which that prediction was based, possibly invalidating that prediction.

In response to the OP:

No, don't invest all your ISK in one product or product group. If you do, then you could easily lose a lot of money on one poor decision. I'd suggest putting 100m each in to three different product groups and then enjoy some PvP or other non-trading game content with the other 100m.

Ammo could go up, but I doubt it will be a large rise. I very much doubt it will be the best investment possible with your funds at this moment in time.

T1 ammo: There is a lot of this slushing about the system already and any significant increase in demand that pushed up the price would bring some of that unlisted T1 ammo to the market. It is possible for pretty much anyone, including someone with the currently proposed Alpha clone skills, to dump large amounts of T1 ammo to Jita through simple production with very little delay. It's also the case that T1 ammo gets dropped by a lot of low-end PvE content, which is something a lot of newbie Alpha clones are likely to be doing.

T2 ammo: The existing production capability for that is pretty massive and would respond to demand rapidly should prices rise.

Faction ammo: This can be produced from FW LP, which is somewhere I'd expect lots of Alpha clones to be headed.