Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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Buff the Jackdaw, nerf the Svipul. Focus on that!

Completely not biased at all.

So can 30 other ships.

... one thing, please keep the base speed push in prop mode for Svipul and Confessor. Because it gives you game play options -> GTFO when scrammed if skilled and the instawarp trick (which needs also some player skill and focus). The Hecate is that bad balanced ship, because first: it's dead when scrammed/webbed and second instawarps without player skill involved.*

... though I like the idea of splitting the DPS bonus into sharpshooter mode.

... also, the instawarp maybe look overpowered in some eyes (especially gate campers), but it makes T3Ds a very solid solo roaming ship, where you don't need a scout alt and can take more risks without being foolproof (except Hecate). Without that solo you will certainly die in any competent camp with seboed HIC scrams.

* from experience, I seldomly catch Hecates with my Svipul, they warp the moment I land on grid ... and those I catch are dead in a couple of shots. There was never an actual fight. 1:1 Svipul vs. Confessor/Jackdaw/Svipul is much more balanced.

Hmmm. Seems someone is making it to difficult. May be CCP or May be players having issues adapting to their foe.
Never the less, How about making it easier to separate ships classes?

Scale all ships speed +20-50%
Normalize Damage vs. Range/tracking

Example:

Frigs 80-150 DPS // 7000-10000/ms
Destroyers 130-280 DPS // 5000-7000/ms
Cruisers 260-530 DPS // 4000-5000/ms
BattleCruisers 400-780 DPS // 2500-4000/ms
Battleship 750-1100 DPS // 1000-2500/ms

The reason im spit-balling this is to note that
*Its easier to separate between More significantly different ships.

Personally i don't agree to a balanced universe,
Discord! & The PL'arger hunts the Weaker. That is what EvE is always going to be.

After some thoughts, my proposed additions

- compensate for the removal of the mode-switch-trick for Svipul and Confessor with an improved bonus to agility, but make it so, it only brings it down to instawarp with at least one nanofiber fitted (compromise on tank)

- make ewar resistance bonus accross the board, damp, TD, TP and ECM

- the loss of scan res is a big hit, I would like to see a compensation by lifting the scanres to the level of other destroyers like the Thrasher. This does not make it overpowered, but 350 scanres (base) on a Svipul is ridiculous compared to ~500 for other destroyers.

Have to test it once it hits SiSi ... my concern is as stated already above, that the Svipul lose its status as a (true) solo roaming PvP + PvE at the same time capable ship, which is a very unique position. I'm not sure why this would be intended ... with fleet boosts changed, "solo" Svipuls, and with the scanres change, camp Svipuls should not be a bigger issue anymore than with other ships.

EDIT:
BTW, if you want to see how AFs can work against Svipuls, have a look here: https://youtu.be/pVT9eToHqvw

+1

Allowing properly fitted T3Ds to (often) bypass gate-camps improves game play. It permits solo players to roam more freely into otherwise inaccessible regions. And it forces campers to put actual effort into hunting and killing intruders. I'd say that's pretty healthy.

Bear in mind that nullbears use T3Ds for system defense. Pushing solo roamers back toward using the Ranis/Crusader is not really a good idea. They're not as viable as they used to be. Today, a solo Crusader simply dies to the defenders' own Svipul (who doesn't have to worry about gate-camps since he's on home turf).

So in general, please give solo roamers sufficient options to keep it interesting. I'm not saying it should be easy to roam out by yourself. But it should be possible and the results should be meaningful.

The infinite growth factor of stats and cost for "better" tiers of ship is a huge problem. They need to be able to do things the other hulls can't without necessarily being stronger. Either that, or T1 stuff starts needing to be buffed for pure combat or the ability to take on more generalized roles, and T2/3 start being specialized tasks.

T1 frigs really should never be able to stand up to T1 dessies, let alone T2 or T3. Dessies are meant to wipe out frigs, not be "a slightly tougher frig with a huge sig penalty". If I had to put it in numbers, I'd say that supposing equal abilities and equal fittings and skills learned, a 20 on 20 frig fight should end with 0 on one side and maybe 3 on the other. 20 frigs vs 20 dessies should end with 14 dessies left, if not more.



No. Stop it. The game already is easy mode since jump freighters

"solo play" is NOT a selling point of an MMO. Go play Wing Commander Privateer if you want to explore space and only get shot at by rats.

If anything, the fact that the ONe person here, you, demands solo play over ALL of the people that committed to the gatecamp, says YOU are at fault because your desires are not shared by the majority at that moment.

Come visit lowsec where solo T1 frigs routinely kill solo dessies and some solo AFs still sometimes kill T3Ds. Skill >> hull. This unpredictability must remain or fights become dull.



Erm... You might be surprised at how many competent solo players there are in EVE. They're not a 'community' any more than cats can form herds. But listening to F1 pushers rag on solo players gets my goat.



Perhaps my most memorable fight while gate-camping was with a dual prop Dram that jumped into us, warped out, came back and killed a few of our number. I was glad to see a solo player able to separate and nail those that deserved to be nailed. My point was that some ship (perhaps not the Dram) should still fill that role.

Also, what's this group-think nonsense?

So again... why messing with that many changes???? Noone would change that many stuff to see if it fixes something !!!!

- you might end up having more issues than you had before
- of course i´m happy there are ppl doing a focus group to deal with issues! SO THX to all giving their time!!!
- again .... it is a T3 dessi so it should be stronger than a t2 and stronger than a t1 keep that in mind for you tons of changes
- right now an assault frig is able to kill a T3D of course not when fitted well and flown correctly (and of course if there are no offgrid links!!!) https://zkillboard.com/kill/56459352/ and if you watch killboards and search through the losses of all T3Ds you will see there are a lot of solo losses against frigs t1 dessis etc. (even Inties :_))
- a lot of cruiser could kill a T3D one on one easily
- the alpha of arty svipuls is high! but alpha of any arties is high


SO PLS DON`T MESS WITH ALL STATS!!!! DON`T ADD NEW ONCE!!!! DECREASE SINGLE STATS THAT ARE CAUSING THE ISSUE!