Intergalactic Summit

You say that as if it's debatable.

In this thread, I count three Federation loyalists, and that is assuming the Gurista woman is loyal to the Federation for simply basing out of it. There are more posters in this thread who bear the colors of another Empire and are unashamed to do so.

Billions upon billions practice the Faith. Many do so through varied interpretations of the Faith all in an effort to prove themselves to Him and lead lives they believe worth eternal bliss. While some practice war, as I have, many commit their very souls to philanthropy, scholarly and theological studies of the sciences and the Faith. The advancement of culture is held dear as much as economical endeavors to improve the Empire at its very core.

I understand you are a Kameira. I understand your fierce devotion to the Faith. I do not believe, though, you personally understand the plights of those who fulfill their service to Him under any other way. You berate them, scold them, chastise and imply your own scriptural understandings are to be accepted as one of if not the only interpretation. I do not think your words are helpful for such an end goal, as such.

Bel Boma has outwardly done more for the Empire than many individuals I am acquainted with. While I understand your service, I do not understand where you place, having relocated yourself to Pandemic Legion. I do not know what you contribute, and I have not witnessed or heard any such great acts of war or otherwise in honor of God. While ad hominem style discussion always falls flat, in this circumstance I believe it to be a fitting usage as you yourself have utilized such attacks against others in this same thread.

Thusly, I implore you, Ayallah, to distance yourself from such judgments. Our God is a just God, and he will see fit to punish those who deserve such punishments. It is up to neither of us to decide who that may be. (To a point, obviously.)



That being said, it would be ignorant to suggest the Federation is impossible to redeem, nor would it be improbable to suggest there is a better way to adapt the Reclaimation to better suit these modern times. I hope our two societies will find a resolution... some day.

I made no effort to point out any service record or return and insult until after I had been insulted twice. I did not use an ad hominem until two were used against me. But I suppose the one who hits harder is often perceived to have started the fight.

You are correct and it is not my place to seem to judge another's service to god. I did not appreciate the hypocrisy of my service record being attacked in the same post as someone admitting they fled from service and I over stepped my bounds. I presumed much of what I did not know.

Thank you for this reminder Zekiel.

I "punished" or "made feel bad" people who insulted me without provocation.

"This idea that feelings are as valid as action and service either to god or nation is ridiculous. How you feel is a child's complaint."

Which is a very large difference between other nations and the Empire. It is something that the State may have in common with the Empire but I do not know. As Zekiel pointed out there may be some place among the trillions where personal feelings toward the decisions of the Empress and Theology Council are considered valid but more often I think to speak them is heresy. Individual feelings are considered to be irrelevant to the direction of the Empire, the Empress speaks and the people follow. I did not personally insult you or attack the premise of this thread but I accept that is how you feel.

In actuality the only people to use the word "childish" were Bel and William later referring to Seraphim.

Why? We've got plenty of Amarr here. If they want to keep tossing these verses around like they prove a point, then they can provide the context the quotes fit into.

Ayallah is right. Especially under Heth, such rabble would be considered seditious and potentially punishable by death. Since capsuleers are sovereign entities, it is largely irrelevant unless you're willing to take the time to hunt someone down.



I refer to the main Empire, not the Mandate nor the Kingdom. There are smaller works allowed at local levels but overwhelmingly they push a unified art form for the public to see. I refer to the architecture et al. It is also worth noting that frequently it is the case that the Empire doesn't promote these smaller art forms so much as permits them to exist, which is a profound difference between it and the Federation.



What's the point to life? To existence? In my opinion, life is its own justification. The infinite pathways down which one can travel are a self justification to the infinite capacity of human creativity. Human cruelty also seems to be infinite, perhaps even moreso, which makes the shows of freedom, liberty, and art that much more important to cherish.

Took the words straight outta my head. But then you knew that.

That apathy's prolly the number one reason the Federation breaks down. I can't say it'd be good for my delta to be in the limelight but maybe if it was the omega cities next door woulda been protected and funded. Maybe if we were a little closer to Caille and we weren't in lowsec, that sansha incursion that pummeled Esmes III woulda actually been stopped. Maybe if Esmes was next door to Caille, the Federal government wouldn't have collapsed. Maybe maybe maybe. And I can't help but be afraid that maybe, maybe some Federal corporations think the whole system of Esmes and its cities are more profitable as an Omega than it was as a Delta.



Everyone's said it before but yeppers, that unrestrained quality is both the Federation's biggest strength and biggest failing. And that's so reasonable when we're talking about that collective a all sorts of individual things. Love me some classical and big band and jazz but the more electronic stuff gives me a headache. Love me tea and biscuits but then some prats here put their milk in first. 'Sjust not right. Guess it'd be nice if we could agree on everything at once but then I love travelling and there's something to be gained in the motion towards new likes and new opinions and new conclusions.

And I think it's a disservice to separate the Empire from the Ammatar and the Khanids and the Ni-Kunni and their distinct cultural groups who bring their own things to the table! No one would accuse a Khanid of not being real Amarr in the Empire I don't think. And no one says Ni-Kunni can't be Amarr because they eat bugs.

Wait sorry did I put my foot in my mouth and say something offensive?

I'm gonna remember that in the future and try to be a lil more sensitive about it. Thankye.

Money is power, Ayallah, and power is the ability to generate all the money you want. Don't act like Pandemic Legion doesn't know that. There's a reason your organization forces smaller groups like the League of Unaligned Master PIlots to tend and administer R64s for you. Without money, you can't operate.



Yes, I know. We all know. The never-born children of the Jove know. You tell everyone all about it at absolutely every opportunity.

"Hello, Ayallah, what did you have for breakfast?"
"Gruel. I have eaten gruel every morning since I began my training as a soldier at age six. That is why all others in the cluster are inferior beings who can never understand my greatness."

Kinda why I was intentionally distorting it. You should try finding a 'scorn and mockery' skillbook sometime.