Science & Industry

So as newest dev blow have come, those changes should be totally devastating to how for now minerals supply from nullsec looks like,
and as some may disagree with this, or may not, from seeing how fast ore on belts in hsec parish, I'm expecting huge spike on mineral's price, it is gamble, but my bets would be in between two and four times spike on price of minerals.

So what do others think about it, and what you would pick yourself to stockpile and multiply your isk over incoming changes?

Off grid boosts are unbalanced - all reward, no risk. Players have been asking CCP to fix it for years. The proposed mechanic looks good for combat boosts since all the boosting ships are combat capable and have a dps role in addition to their boosting role and boosts can be distributed throughout the fleet using fairly inexpensive ships. I expect T1 battlecruiser fleets will be a lot more popular.

Current mining command ships are large, expensive and not survivable on grid - even with temporary invulnerability. The new Porpoise may be cheap enough to risk and able to warp between anomalies to provide boosts though this doesn't seem to be a fun job.

My expectation is there will be fewer mining boosts, leading to reduced harvest - particularly in nullsec. This will result in price increases - which will attract more miners back to the belts and a new balance will be established. ADM's will also play a role in sovereign null. Alliances have an interest in keeping miners happy so scheduled fleets with boosts and escort seem likely. Prices will settle somewhat higher, my guess is 25% to 50% for nullsec minerals - 10% to 25% for highsec where risk is a lot lower. There may be a 4X spike but it won't last long.

As a function of speculation, perhaps briefly.

As a function of supply and demand, that's a pretty idiotic bet.

Do you imagine everyone is mining with a sieged rorqual in fleet?

What do you think the maximum mining boost value is?

What do you think the actual average realized mining boost across the universe is?

Given that you're barely literate, I guess it was a bit much to expect you to think through the measured impact on supply.

Take a look at skill extractors & injectors. The market might be crashing, with people getting-rid of useless leadership skills.

Orca and Rorqual have also been affected, though I expect Orca to take less of a hit as it is also a cheaper freighter.

This should probably be a Market Discussions topic.

the new industrial command ship... think the name is gonna be called the Porpoise or something like that... initial guesstimates put it at compareable to current battlecruiser command ships.. those could easily sit in belts, and provide boosts

can still keep the orca or roq at the tower or tethered or something

curious..

what is gonna happen with the roqual when all POS (and the attached bubbles) go bye bye next year or so??

At worst, the difference is between Rorqual boosts and Orca boosts (or whatever the Porpoise boosts will be). This is a long way from "totally devastating". We are only just into "minor nerf" territory" here, and I expect the opportunity cost for producing 0.0 minerals to change very little after the hysteria subsides.

0.0 mining is very different from hi-sec; mining is nearly all done in anomalies, not belts. It's relatively simple to keep all the mining ships within boost range, and a Higgs-Anchored Orca (with maybe a web or two on it as well, why not?) can be perfectly aligned at warpable speed and left that way for as long as desired.

As for how the Rorqual will be deployed, well I've had a few thought about that of my own, and needless to say I won't be using one in Syndicate. But I don't think it will go unused. EVE players are most fond of reacting to a change that is intended to change the way we play by yelling "If we try and keep on playing the way we did before, we'll be SCREWED!"

And then 3 months later, everything is actually pretty much OK.

I tend to agree that mineral prices will "spike" while people get used to the new regime. I don't expect my miners will be overly affected but I foresee another difficulty.

My biggest worry is that many people will see the new system as yet another extension of the micro-management that CCP is dealing out & simply look to investing their time in other less intensive pursuits. As CCP turns this game into a job more people (especially those who multi-box) will look to simpler ways to enjoy their free time - that may mean simpler game styles in EvE (for example, ratting) or other games altogether.

The loss of active multi-boxers will no doubt lead to less miners & that may well cause more of an uplift in mineral prices.