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The second generation of T3 destroyers
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Dior Ambraelle
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-08-30 15:14:06 UTC
Currently we have 3 gunboats and a missile boat. Personally I would like to see the T3 version of the "alternative" destroyers too.
Amarr would have a superior neuter with pretty much all over the place weapons, similarly to the Dragoon.
Gallente would have the ultimate drone destroyer with enough bandwidth to fly 5 medium drones.
Caldari would have a railgun-sniper, with the longest optimal range of all destroyers.
Minmatar would have an armored, yet fast missile boat.

If you want an intelligent argument, please do, I'm up for it!

But if you want a trolling contest, I will win it by simply not participating.
Merchant Rova
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2016-08-30 15:30:02 UTC
NO.

By doing this you screw T2 frigates even harder and make T3D's more and more OP.

RIP Merchant Rova's cheekbones, YC118-YC119. Forever in our hearts.
Rovinia
Exotic Dancers Union
#3 - 2016-08-30 15:35:50 UTC
I like new ships. I really do.

But i would prefer that the existing T3's get balanced first and Assault Frigates get a new niche and a purpose again.

With T3 destroyers, 4 new ships got introduced. And in the same process, 8 allready existing (AF's) got made more or less useless (or let's better say "non competitive").
FT Cold
FT Cold Corporation
#4 - 2016-08-30 16:14:30 UTC
No thanks, there's still plenty of balancing left for existing ships before we introduce new hulls that bring up a host of new problems.
Wimzy Chent-Shi
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2016-08-31 07:04:04 UTC
This is a symptom of t3d cancer "currently only ship worth flying now is t3d, please give us more" flying anything else in small roaming gangs is suboptimal at best.

Come get some cancer @ my blog !

"This clash of opinions is like cutting onions. We are creating something here, that's productive, ...and then there is also salt." -Wimzy 2016
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#6 - 2016-08-31 07:33:57 UTC
Dior Ambraelle wrote:
Currently we have 3 gunboats and a missile boat. Personally I would like to see the T3 version of the "alternative" destroyers too.
Amarr would have a superior neuter with pretty much all over the place weapons, similarly to the Dragoon.
Gallente would have the ultimate drone destroyer with enough bandwidth to fly 5 medium drones.
Caldari would have a railgun-sniper, with the longest optimal range of all destroyers.
Minmatar would have an armored, yet fast missile boat.


Ironically, the Amarr and Gallente (and partially Minmatar, the Bifrost is missile, but shield) ships you want already exist, just in a less overpowered way: Look up the Command Destroyers.

With the Caldari, OK I could see a place left for a small railgun-sniper, but I guess that's a spot which could either filled by a pirate- or a navy-version of the Not-Corax.

We don't really neat 8 different T3-destroyers anyway, that would be a bit excessive. T3-frigates or T3-battlecruisers maybe, but not 8 destroyers.
Brokk Witgenstein
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2016-08-31 08:06:07 UTC
What we're missing, is one of the destroyer modes dedicated to EWAR.

Y NO EWAR?

Sad
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-08-31 12:37:34 UTC
This game needs more T3 ships like it needs another class of super capitals. The ones we have are either OP as hell (I'm looking at you Svipul) or completely useless for anything except a few niche roles (Yo, Loki, yeah I got your back man).

So how about no. Is no good for you? Shall I pencil you in for next Thursday at No o'clock?

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#9 - 2016-08-31 12:55:35 UTC
-1

I see a major problem here not only with CCP but the players as well. When the Ishtar was made OP the community started screaming for the nerf bat. T3D's have been just as insanely OP since the day they were released and all we hear now is give us more insanely OP ships.


Rovinia wrote:
(or let's better say "non competitive").

Why try to be nice, CCP rendered the entire group of assault frigates USELESS when they launched the T3D's.
Sure some of us that have them still get out and fly them simply to re-kindle old memories and there may even be a microscopically small chance that they have some relevance or use in some area of the game, but on the whole they are useless.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#10 - 2016-08-31 13:13:16 UTC
Hey, hey guys you know t3ds?

those things that ccp has yet to be able to balance?

yeah lets add 4 more i'm sure nothing will break

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#11 - 2016-08-31 13:16:34 UTC
Dior Ambraelle wrote:
Currently we have 3 gunboats and a missile boat. Personally I would like to see the T3 version of the "alternative" destroyers too.
Amarr would have a superior neuter with pretty much all over the place weapons, similarly to the Dragoon.
Gallente would have the ultimate drone destroyer with enough bandwidth to fly 5 medium drones.
Caldari would have a railgun-sniper, with the longest optimal range of all destroyers.
Minmatar would have an armored, yet fast missile boat.


Did you fly them all?

If you answer is no, then it might be the case that we do not need more ships. In fact EVE was a much better place when we didn't have a ship for everything.

Need leads to invention and creativity.

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

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Dior Ambraelle
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2016-08-31 16:13:16 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Hey, hey guys you know t3ds?

those things that ccp has yet to be able to balance?

yeah lets add 4 more i'm sure nothing will break

Hey, it isn't my fault that CCP was unable to balance these things, or that they nerfed a whole group of other ships!

I like destroyers and I love how the T3s have different modes. Each faction have 2 base destroyers, the gunboat is upgraded to interdictor, the other to command destroyer. But the tactical destroyers are also gunships except for one. And who knows, maybe balancing 8 ships turns out to be easier than balancing 4. We won't know until we try.

If you want an intelligent argument, please do, I'm up for it!

But if you want a trolling contest, I will win it by simply not participating.
Dior Ambraelle
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2016-08-31 16:18:39 UTC
elitatwo wrote:

In fact EVE was a much better place when we didn't have a ship for everything.

I'm just curious, which ships do you think are unnecessary and would you like remove from the game?

If you want an intelligent argument, please do, I'm up for it!

But if you want a trolling contest, I will win it by simply not participating.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2016-08-31 18:00:15 UTC
OP, you know how people say the orthrus is OP as balls?

What do you think your brand new RLML T3D is going to be?
Captain Campion
Campion Corp.
#15 - 2016-08-31 19:41:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Campion
Dior Ambraelle wrote:
elitatwo wrote:

In fact EVE was a much better place when we didn't have a ship for everything.

I'm just curious, which ships do you think are unnecessary and would you like remove from the game?


Everything released in the last 10 years.