Crime & Punishment

It doesn't cost anywhere near that much, there are plenty of affordable ships you can use like T3s and Logis. Even a faction BS shouldn't cost you 2-3 bil because the only pimp you really need is damage mods.

Is it so hard to accept that Incursions pay too well relative to other activities in EVE? No one's saying that they should be removed, just that they should be toned down.

With each post you make one thing becomes more clear. You have no idea what you are talking about.

If there are actually mission runners making anywhere near 100mil/hr (still waiting for the pics) they have probably invested 100's of hours into building standings, training SP for maxed effeciency and learning how to best farm/blitz those missions. Conversely any 3 month old character can train up minmatar/gallente BS IV and jump into a machariel with plexed (or lol incursion financed) faction mods and make the same amount of money if not more. The fact that you continue to make these generalizations shows exactly which end of this carebear spectrum you are in.

Someone give this guy a tissue.

Incursions were designed to replicate PVP, people who venture outside of highsec generally know how to PVP and hence don't need 3bil isk pimpmobiles to run a site in 5 minutes. Heck, you know how goons run their null incursions? Hurricanes, zealots and guardians and none of them are pimped and yet they completed their entire incursion within a day recently in pure blind. 2-3bil investment is only done by people incompetent at fitting and at having proper skills trained and actual piloting skills.

Until Incursions became all the rage there were constant "I make 200 mill/hr blitzing in my Mach/Mare" threads in Missions&Explo forum.

3 month old character with such a pathetic skilled Mach will have terrible tank and terrible DPS and (if he survives any oopsies in sites) would end being a shiny but useless decorations of better T1 BS fleets.

It should be, it should just be even higher the lower the sec status you go, to encourage those same groups to brave more dangerous space.

We don't so much want high sec incursions nerfed, as we want them proportional to other forms of income in terms if risk vs reward.

And if you think the risk is the same, go out to nullsec for a couple months, have to fight for the space you get rich in, and then say its the same.

I just can't get my head round the fact there's a bunch of folks running round in 2-3b isk ships with low or null pvp skills. And on top of that making tons of isk farming risk free in hi sec with these incursions.

Like to see them come down to NPC null in Curse with said ships and do an incursion. Where's the risk in hi sec to generate such rewards ?

I get it now.. you guys couldn't get into a decent incursion fleet and always lost when sites were contested.. so now you get a fleet to run the mom, as no one else will be there, so you too can make a few iskies.. shame you poor babies.. ganking miners getting boring for you????

clearly you are lost.. you will be amazed how many HS incursion runners have active toons in null and LS corps. I would bet more than half the people bitching about incursion and joining the griefer fleets have alt's running them...

Didn't want that incursion anyway.

I see you are enjoying yourself now that the isk tap got shut for a few days