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Corbulo Typhonius
Lineark
#1 - 2016-08-26 23:11:15 UTC
Ok, Not sure if this is even doable but thought I would ask incase someone has figured this out.

Basicly, I have a corp in which I have a BPO library that I will to make available to the rest of the corp without risking theft, I thought a way through using the containers to lock them so they can access the container and use the bpo without them actualy taking it, cant do that since i cant assemble containers in a pos it seems.

We have a citadel but atm that doesnt have manufaturing capabilities so thats useless atm until thats released ( hopefully sooner rather than later.)

The only other way I can see this working is perhaps have to rent a office at an npc station and try it that way ? unless someone else has figured out a way to keep the bpos risk free from theft but having them available to everyone without the need of a ceo or director either making bpc or unlocking the bpo for them ???
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2016-08-26 23:15:13 UTC
Corbulo Typhonius wrote:
Ok, Not sure if this is even doable but thought I would ask incase someone has figured this out.

Basicly, I have a corp in which I have a BPO library that I will to make available to the rest of the corp without risking theft, I thought a way through using the containers to lock them so they can access the container and use the bpo without them actualy taking it, cant do that since i cant assemble containers in a pos it seems.

We have a citadel but atm that doesnt have manufaturing capabilities so thats useless atm until thats released ( hopefully sooner rather than later.)

The only other way I can see this working is perhaps have to rent a office at an npc station and try it that way ? unless someone else has figured out a way to keep the bpos risk free from theft but having them available to everyone without the need of a ceo or director either making bpc or unlocking the bpo for them ???


As far as I know, you can't, not at a POS anyway. Letting people use BPOs directly requires you to trust them.

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Pandora Carrollon
Provi Rapid Response
#3 - 2016-08-26 23:46:23 UTC
You could always make a copy and give them that.

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Mackenzie Hawkwood
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2016-08-27 01:58:39 UTC
Or they could make the copy, skills dependant.

You can place the bpo's in a copy array at the pos/Station with copy capability, in a tab that has restricted take roles(less mucking around then with locking BPO's).
The corp member can 'access' the BPO through the industry/blue prints tab. They initiate the copy from the restricted tab but deliver to an accessable tab.

This method will work, but you may have to play around with roles and a view contents role should be all they need to see the BPO.

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Drago Shouna
Doomheim
#5 - 2016-08-27 07:41:34 UTC
As someone has already said, make copies for the corp to use.

Don't put the BPO's at risk mate, it might be fine, but then again it might all end in tears.

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Corbulo Typhonius
Lineark
#6 - 2016-08-28 16:52:04 UTC
I figured as much, thank you all for your input, much appreciated.
Marsha Mallow
#7 - 2016-08-28 17:22:08 UTC
Corbulo Typhonius wrote:
The only other way I can see this working is perhaps have to rent a office at an npc station and try it that way ? unless someone else has figured out a way to keep the bpos risk free from theft but having them available to everyone without the need of a ceo or director either making bpc or unlocking the bpo for them ???

This should work. As far as I know locked down BPOs can still be put into copy/research or be used to build without unlocking. Realistically the same functionality will be available in the new indy structures (whether on release or at some later date) so lockdown is probably your best bet rather than fiddling with cans and hangar roles.

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Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#8 - 2016-08-29 00:19:35 UTC
This is an enormous failure of Crius. Industry was meant to become a collaborative endeavour but instead the only operable methods are solo or trust.

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Moac Tor
Cyber Core
Immediate Destruction
#9 - 2016-08-29 01:49:05 UTC
You can still lock them down in NPC stations for corp use I believe, you just need to have a look into setting up the shares in the corp so that only you can vote on any actions involving the BPOs.

Teams were meant to be the pull that got industrialist working together in Crius although it was scrapped later in the mass dumbing down initiative. So now we only have the push factor which is the system index cost.
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#10 - 2016-08-29 01:52:57 UTC
Zappity wrote:
This is an enormous failure of Crius. Industry was meant to become a collaborative endeavour but instead the only operable methods are solo or trust.

Totally agree.

Cruis ended up a pretty big disappointment in the end and this was one of the biggest. It was just a UI change to something a bit more buggy than the old system, with nothing innovative.

One of the few CCP releases I've been genuinely disappointed with.

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Moac Tor
Cyber Core
Immediate Destruction
#11 - 2016-08-29 02:08:44 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
It was just a UI change to something a bit more buggy than the old system, with nothing innovative.

What... It changed pretty much every aspect of industry......

Perhaps go back and read the patch notes before commenting on stuff you know little about..
Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#12 - 2016-08-29 03:17:17 UTC
Moac Tor wrote:
You can still lock them down in NPC stations for corp use I believe.


yeah, this is possible. however setting it up is tricky and if we're talking a large BPO collection, then taking it out of that station is an annoying, irritating clickfest.

Just make some multi-run copies for corp-bro usage. BPOs, especially well researched ones, are a valuable asset.

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Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#13 - 2016-08-29 03:35:14 UTC
Moac Tor wrote:
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
It was just a UI change to something a bit more buggy than the old system, with nothing innovative.

What... It changed pretty much every aspect of industry......

Like what? The UI change was huge but what were the meaningful changes in underlying mechanics?

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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#14 - 2016-08-29 05:05:07 UTC
Moac Tor wrote:
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
It was just a UI change to something a bit more buggy than the old system, with nothing innovative.

What... It changed pretty much every aspect of industry......

Perhaps go back and read the patch notes before commenting on stuff you know little about..

Really?

Teams came....teams went.

What else was a major change aside from UI, which is more buggy now?

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