Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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Confessor:

Increase signature radius from 60m to 70m.

Propulsion Mode:

Change 66% bonus to base velocity, to a 66% bonus to microwarpdrive speed boost.

Change 33% bonus to ship inertia, to a 66% bonus to ship inertia.

Base velocity and mass would also need adjustment in order to make the propulsion mode changes balanced.

But in short, essentially replace the confessors propulsion mode with that of the hecates, including 2 second warp.


The svipul could use essentially the exact same general changes listed above, with perhaps a little something on top to address it's unique issues. It is far more dominant than the fessor, which by comparison needs only a very mild change.

the weapon tiericide sounds great. t2 ammo for all weapons, spec skill for all weapons. maybe make t2 ammo way less important and do falloff bonus/penalty on t1 ammo also so there's more than 2 ammo types for falloff weapons

It is only really the Svipul, and Confessor to a lesser degree, that need nerfing (mainly due to their high speed and low sig combination). The Jackdaw and Hecate are in a good place IMO.

Rather than a massive nerf hammer being bought down as some are suggesting, I'm hoping to see a sensible approach to balancing the T3 destroyers.

jackdaw can easily get way too much tank for a destroyer

Give 'em the crow treatment.

I'd like to join this focus group. I have been involved in the discussion since post #22. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6085844#post6085844 I have experience with and against t3ds in the field.

more like remove all scan res bonuses from sharpshooter modes, and have a long think about what actual value scan res sensor boosting adds to the game

I think the T3s are fine as they are. The most common reason given for a nerf is " look at zkill, the svipul is the top ship always". That is true. But its the top ship because it has a fast base lock and good range meaning it can KM whore easily. Just because it can KM whore doesnt mean it needs a nerf.

When i compared ships k:l ratios all of the T3Ds had a similar K:L ratio as most other pvp ships. Some faction ships have 3 times the average K:L ratio yet no one complains about these. Its not that T3Ds are hard to kill and dont die. They die in the same ratio as most other ships. They are popular because they are fast, have good scan res, and decent range. They are a balance between a frigate and a cruiser.

I dont understand what people find so difficult about killing one? Remove logi support and they are kind of squishy. And apparently the stats agree with me because they die just as much as the next pvp ship, ratio wise.

What this entire discussion on T3Ds is, is a knee jerk reaction .. Instead of figuring out how to counter a T3D, and their are many ways, its better to just whine about it until CCP swings the nerf bat at it. Then we dont have to make any effort to try to counter T3Ds.

Destroyers for a long time were the LOL of ships. They were so worthless i didnt even bother to train destroyers pass level 3 for nearly 8 years. Only dictors were of any use. Now destroyers are in a decent place and people want to swing the nerf bat at them because they are to lazy to make an effort to counter them.

You want to counter a svipul gang? Bring T2 cruisers. They will melt away from existence. If you want to balance T3Ds for solo play STFU and STFD ,Eve isnt about solo play its about fleet pvp.

Thats my two cents, flame on.

Stick enough remote sebos on a Svipul in SS mode and it can tank gate guns for a while.