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When did CONCORD stop doing its job?
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Robert Sawyer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#21 - 2016-07-01 20:29:18 UTC
Remember that CONCORD is here to punish, not to protect.
I do agree, however, that they are some easily manipulable pieces of **** that should have their AI upped as in to stop being played like damn fiddles when you're getting jumped by an organized gank.

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Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#22 - 2016-07-03 05:36:59 UTC
Bear

Why, hello there, OP.

Cool

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And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#23 - 2016-07-03 18:29:19 UTC
Robert Sawyer wrote:
I do agree, however, that they are some easily manipulable pieces of **** that should have their AI upped as in to stop being played like damn fiddles when you're getting jumped by an organized gank.
Every law enforcement system in the world is guilty of getting played while crime takes place elsewhere; the Concord AI, however dumb, is certainly more efficient than people would be.

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Morgan Agrivar
Doomheim
#24 - 2016-07-03 21:14:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Morgan Agrivar
I pay CONCORD under the table so I can shoot at MTUs.

Take better care of the children you leave out next time.
Jinn McKellin
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#25 - 2016-07-03 23:31:03 UTC
Holy carp


Even I know better that to whine in this board


And I'm so very bad at eve.
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2016-07-06 16:39:18 UTC
Hitori Tenchi wrote:
I'm pretty sure it hasn't. But if it ever did this game would be WAY more interesting.

CCP should do a 1 day event where CONCORD goes on strike and not tell anyone. No forum announcements, no social media posts. Just put CONCORD in a box for one day and watch what happens. It would be the most interesting day in EVE since it launched.


OMG that would be amazing.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#27 - 2016-07-06 17:02:44 UTC
Jinn McKellin wrote:
Holy carp


Even I know better that to whine in this board


And I'm so very bad at eve.


You found someone you're better at Eve than. Blink

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.
Trevor Dalech
Nobody in Local
Deepwater Hooligans
#28 - 2016-07-07 22:51:16 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
CONCORD stopped doing their job the day they were hired.

Since day 1 of the game they have allowed NPC pirates to roam freely across high security space, murdering innocent capsuleers at will.

When the Sanshas invaded, declaring war directly on CONCORD - did Concord mobilize their massive fleets (we've all seen them cluttering up random gates for no apparent reason - we *know* they have the ships)? NO THEY DID NOT. Instead they whined endlessly and sent hordes of capsuleers out to fight and die in their place.

They claim they "can't handle" these threats, so they need our "help" to protect high sec against these threats.... But we've all seen CONCORD in action. Their lowliest frigate is equipped with advanced equipment that makes it more than a match for even the largest incursion fleet ever fielded by capsuleers. And they have THOUSANDS of ships on standby at any given moment - with the ability to create more AT WILL whenever they need them.

Yet still, even when there is already a massive CONCORD fleet in an asteroid belt, they will just sit and watch "helplessly" as an innocent venture falls pray to a lone NPC pirate. Claiming that they "can't help" - even though all it would take is the press of a single button to do so.



The question, therefore, is not "When did CONCORD stop doing its job?"

The real question is: "Will CONCORD ever bother to *start* doing its job?"


You just suggested we turn high sec into a state policed by an invincible, extremely powerful police force, with the ability to detect and immediately respond to any crime they deem bad. Their morals are supported by only a small minority of the community. And I thought the Stasi was bad...
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#29 - 2016-07-07 23:03:18 UTC
Trevor Dalech wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
CONCORD stopped doing their job the day they were hired.

Since day 1 of the game they have allowed NPC pirates to roam freely across high security space, murdering innocent capsuleers at will.

When the Sanshas invaded, declaring war directly on CONCORD - did Concord mobilize their massive fleets (we've all seen them cluttering up random gates for no apparent reason - we *know* they have the ships)? NO THEY DID NOT. Instead they whined endlessly and sent hordes of capsuleers out to fight and die in their place.

They claim they "can't handle" these threats, so they need our "help" to protect high sec against these threats.... But we've all seen CONCORD in action. Their lowliest frigate is equipped with advanced equipment that makes it more than a match for even the largest incursion fleet ever fielded by capsuleers. And they have THOUSANDS of ships on standby at any given moment - with the ability to create more AT WILL whenever they need them.

Yet still, even when there is already a massive CONCORD fleet in an asteroid belt, they will just sit and watch "helplessly" as an innocent venture falls pray to a lone NPC pirate. Claiming that they "can't help" - even though all it would take is the press of a single button to do so.



The question, therefore, is not "When did CONCORD stop doing its job?"

The real question is: "Will CONCORD ever bother to *start* doing its job?"


You just suggested we turn high sec into a state policed by an invincible, extremely powerful police force, with the ability to detect and immediately respond to any crime they deem bad. Their morals are supported by only a small minority of the community. And I thought the Stasi was bad...

Actually I just pointed out that high sec *already is* policed by an invincible, extremely powerful police force, with the ability to detect and immediately respond to any crime they deem bad.

They are just lazy and don't bother to do anything because despite their public claims of what they supposedly want they clearly don't care enough to respond to the vast majority of threats that are present - even when directly challenged by a pirate force like the Sanshas.

Whether this is a *bad* thing is of course open to interpretation. I'm not saying I want CONCORD to suddenly wake up and start doing their jobs - I'm just saying they have never done so before, why expect them to start now?

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Merchant Rova
Tidal Lock
Vapor-Lock
#30 - 2016-08-26 19:16:53 UTC
Le Plebo
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#31 - 2016-08-30 04:45:49 UTC
Lol get rekt nerd
Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
#32 - 2016-08-30 19:02:35 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Trevor Dalech wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
CONCORD stopped doing their job the day they were hired.

Since day 1 of the game they have allowed NPC pirates to roam freely across high security space, murdering innocent capsuleers at will.

When the Sanshas invaded, declaring war directly on CONCORD - did Concord mobilize their massive fleets (we've all seen them cluttering up random gates for no apparent reason - we *know* they have the ships)? NO THEY DID NOT. Instead they whined endlessly and sent hordes of capsuleers out to fight and die in their place.

They claim they "can't handle" these threats, so they need our "help" to protect high sec against these threats.... But we've all seen CONCORD in action. Their lowliest frigate is equipped with advanced equipment that makes it more than a match for even the largest incursion fleet ever fielded by capsuleers. And they have THOUSANDS of ships on standby at any given moment - with the ability to create more AT WILL whenever they need them.

Yet still, even when there is already a massive CONCORD fleet in an asteroid belt, they will just sit and watch "helplessly" as an innocent venture falls pray to a lone NPC pirate. Claiming that they "can't help" - even though all it would take is the press of a single button to do so.



The question, therefore, is not "When did CONCORD stop doing its job?"

The real question is: "Will CONCORD ever bother to *start* doing its job?"


You just suggested we turn high sec into a state policed by an invincible, extremely powerful police force, with the ability to detect and immediately respond to any crime they deem bad. Their morals are supported by only a small minority of the community. And I thought the Stasi was bad...

Actually I just pointed out that high sec *already is* policed by an invincible, extremely powerful police force, with the ability to detect and immediately respond to any crime they deem bad.

They are just lazy and don't bother to do anything because despite their public claims of what they supposedly want...


Can we get a citation for these public claims?
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#33 - 2016-08-30 19:18:54 UTC
Galaxy Duck wrote:
Can we get a citation for these public claims?

I think CCP would rather sweep it under the rug than publicly acknowledge or advertise it...


But I tell you what - why don't you go and do the following for me:

#1) Fly to any high-sec belt with an NPC rat shooting a miner (not hard to find, especially with the really afk miners who don't ever kill them)
#2) Take a screen shot of the rat shooting him.
#3) Kill him with your catalyst
#4) Take some screen shots of your battle with CONCORD - I mean if they can't handle that little belt rat they certainly can't handle your catalyst right?
#5) Post the pictures online somewhere
#6) Link the pictures here


Then I can go ahead and quote you and use you as my citation that my bold claims are obviously true.


Alternatively feel free to take pictures of yourself killing the weak, underpowered concord ship that can't handle a high sec belt rat - I'd be happy to be proven wrong as well.

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
#34 - 2016-08-31 13:16:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Galaxy Duck
So that's a "no" then?
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#35 - 2016-08-31 13:23:51 UTC
Galaxy Duck wrote:
So that's a "no" then?

https://zkillboard.com/corporation/1000125/

164 members

over 230 THOUSAND kills

Zero Losses...


https://zkillboard.com/kill/55843272/

Miners still die to belt rats that deal 2 dps...In high sec...patrolled by concord....



There you go - Citations given o7
PPP

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Jovian Death
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2016-08-31 13:35:51 UTC
Hitori Tenchi wrote:
I'm pretty sure it hasn't. But if it ever did this game would be WAY more interesting.

CCP should do a 1 day event where CONCORD goes on strike and not tell anyone. No forum announcements, no social media posts. Just put CONCORD in a box for one day and watch what happens. It would be the most interesting day in EVE since it launched.



Meh just turn Highsec to null for 24 hrs. Would love to see titans pounding jita undock
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#37 - 2016-08-31 14:07:50 UTC
Also note CONCORD doesn't even bother to touch that belt rat *after* it kills the miner. No punishment at all for the millions of pirate NPCs that freely roam high-sec even thicker than they roam their "home" territories in NPC 0.0 space...

TBH I think CONCORD wouldn't do anything at all - but their leadership hates gankers and/or the CODE. organization specifically for some reason and just looks for any excuse to murder them...

I'm not saying this is a bad thing - I mean at least there is *something* that gets them up off their lazy ***es once in a while to earn a little bit of the taxes we pay for their salaries...

I'm just pointing out that the clear, objective reality is that we have an insanely powerful, nigh on invulnerable police force that essentially does.... nothing whatsoever vs the vast majority of criminal activity in high-sec - except when a few specific minorities are involved.

Bear

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Fiddly Pop
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#38 - 2016-08-31 15:14:16 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:

TBH I think CONCORD wouldn't do anything at all - but their leadership hates gankers and/or the CODE. organization specifically for some reason and just looks for any excuse to murder them...
Bear


CODE. deals with CONCORD harassment every day.
Despite numerous petitions from hundred of members, CCP still refuses to stop the harassment .
Just look at their Kill Boards, https://zkillboard.com/corporation/1000125 , 75% CODE.. Anyone can see that they take advantage of current game mechanics to hunt us down and kill us no matter what we do.
Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
#39 - 2016-08-31 19:08:46 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Galaxy Duck wrote:
So that's a "no" then?

https://zkillboard.com/corporation/1000125/

164 members

over 230 THOUSAND kills

Zero Losses...


https://zkillboard.com/kill/55843272/

Miners still die to belt rats that deal 2 dps...In high sec...patrolled by concord....



There you go - Citations given o7
PPP


I can't find any statements by the CONCORD Assembly in those links you provided.
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#40 - 2016-08-31 19:09:25 UTC
Galaxy Duck wrote:
I can't find any statements by the CONCORD Assembly in those links you provided.

What makes you think they are literate? Can you provide any citations for your own bold assertion?

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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