EVE General Discussion

It has livestock and soil, there has to be something in between those two

Stop telling me I'm posting too quick Eve forums!

And to think, I gave you a yellow dress all those years ago...

I think you are looking at this from an incorrect perspective based on an incorrect assumption.

First, the incorrect assumption:

"until they weren't fun anymore", implies that the forums are here for fun, like Reddit is. That's a false premise. The forums are here for CCP to get information out and to allow the the EVE community to have an official site to post back and forth with each other. Since this is a site run by a for profit corporation, they will attempt to appeal to the widest audience possible and thus have rules to govern our interaction here.

The incorrect perspective:

"ISD stifles discussion," and they do not. They moderate the forum posts based on the rules that CCP has set for the forums. They do make mistakes, they are humans and not perfect. On the majority, with thousands of posts per day, they do a reasonable job of something that is difficult at best and impossible most of the time. Having done this job on other boards, I know how hard it is. Please give them some credit.

The reality:

Reddit is what Reddit was built to do, it's open and pretty much unmoderated. Their vote system performs a similar function to the ISD but it's just as flawed, if not more, than the standard moderated forum system is. Perfectly valid posts can be voted into nothingness just because the person that said it isn't liked there. That makes it something of a popularity contest. You see this all over Reddit. That makes it great Social Media, but a terrible official communications point.

The two systems are similar in many respects, but their build purposes were radically different. People keep trying to hold one up above the other, they are both just information sources. You're foolish if you don't pay attention to both, because you can lose vital info if you only pay attention to one.

On Reddit you can have any opinion you want, as long as you agree with the herd.

On the forums you can take a contrary position on an issue and at least have your opinion seen, not downvoted into oblivion.

Also, /r/eve is basically terrible at anything except propaganda about the herds preferred side in Sov warfare.

Consistent moderation? I think that there are some people on this forum that are so used of getting away with 'bad forum behaviour' that every other comment they make is some form of troll attempt or in general demenaing behaviour against new players and players with a different opinion than them. Reading the forum gives me a good idea about why there isn't any/much new blood in the game, no free to play scheme will fix that.

This was quite an interesting discussion, but it seems that it has run its course now.

Thank you for all the constructive feedback and arguments put forth!