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Should CCP Change Subscription To F2P Or P2W

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Josef Djugashvilis
#141 - 2016-08-23 16:27:17 UTC
NO, not today, not tomorrow, not ever.

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Caco De'mon
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#142 - 2016-08-23 18:49:14 UTC
ISD Max Trix wrote:
Caco De'mon wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
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I replied but it was lost when the thread was temp-locked...throwing in the white towel as this place is ludicrousness....


One of the downsides of the way the forum functions. If we don't lock the threads when we do a large clean up, we run the risk of crashing the forum server.


I did what you do here for FOCUS and suggest you push for better software as Doc is right, whatever runs this forum is pretty horrible...

(thanks for answering though)

*"See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand."
Solecist Project
#143 - 2016-08-23 19:51:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Caco De'mon wrote:
ISD Max Trix wrote:
Caco De'mon wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
...


I replied but it was lost when the thread was temp-locked...throwing in the white towel as this place is ludicrousness....


One of the downsides of the way the forum functions. If we don't lock the threads when we do a large clean up, we run the risk of crashing the forum server.


I did what you do here for FOCUS and suggest you push for better software as Doc is right, whatever runs this forum is pretty horrible...

(thanks for answering though)

They are considering Disquss as new forum, iirc.
A dev mentioned it some time ago..

Which reminds me of an idea for an additional forum which I had.
A truly gigantic subforum that has no equals and would be worthy of EVE ONLINE.


Also... I kind of like you.

You seem smart, though you (still/so far) lack the desire to seek out ...
... the fundamental parts ...
... that actually make up the things you try to build logical constructs for.


Most likely because you haven't realized their existence yet. ^_^

And now I may have helped you realizing, because I pointed out their existence ...
... and deliberately sent your brain on a journey towards understanding the thinking process itself.

...

That's 10 bucks, super discount for you.

:)



(Edit: i was really high when i wrote that and it was fun ...
... until a huge grasshoper - lol - landed inside the room and started zirping, freaking me out! Lol)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Radical Posture
The Outsiders.
#144 - 2016-08-23 21:38:47 UTC
Make it Free to Play but the skill timer wont tick unless you buy a plex or skill injector.
roberts dragon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#145 - 2016-08-26 09:45:23 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
roberts dragon wrote:
I would say over time they will have to go free to play look at world of tanks how much cash they bring in compared to eve online big difference I enjoy the game but are not active due to friend gone awol .
at the end of the day business is business period and eve would benefit by the influx of new players , and as for the the old ones/players been playing for years may the force be with you

A 13 year old subscription game going free to play?

It wouldn't be hard to see that as an act of desperation before the final nail is driven home. The gaming press, who like Eve for the most part because it makes great headlines, would crucify CCP.


if you look at what happened with the elder scrolls online I was beta tester they told us never go free to play and look at it now no subs , as I have said business is business they would get wads more players and would I think earn more cash that would get new/more content .

so long term it be better to move forward and do free to play with limited options like they do in runescape to name 1 and micro transactions also do what the gambling sites do in eve sell isk plex on ebay .
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#146 - 2016-08-26 10:11:32 UTC
Radical Posture wrote:
Make it Free to Play but the skill timer wont tick unless you buy a plex or skill injector.


so just free cyno alts and scouts everywhere?

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Soltys
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#147 - 2016-08-26 10:17:27 UTC
TBH, a typical F2P mmo these days has "premium" subscription costing - what a surprise - around what P2P mmos used to. And the whole game is structured in a way, that playing without it is somewhere between completely pointless and highly frustrating.

EvE is not that far away from that. TBH main difference is that our "premium" sub is still mandatory, and the cash shop is relatively clean (with extractors being none the less a touchy subject).

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Reinhardt Kreiss
TetraVaal Tactical Group
#148 - 2016-08-26 10:25:45 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Radical Posture wrote:
Make it Free to Play but the skill timer wont tick unless you buy a plex or skill injector.


so just free cyno alts and scouts everywhere?


I'm always amazed at how terrible people are at understanding the implications of (their own) ideas. The game would be full of maxed out miners, haulers, traders, mission runners and whatnot. None of them paying one single cent.
Josef Djugashvilis
#149 - 2016-08-26 11:15:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
If Eve ever became p2w - f2p or any variation thereof, I would not threaten to quit, I would simply allow my sub to expire and take early retirement.

CCP has, as have many game companies, made foolish decisions (loot spew was an example) but I do not believe that they would be that foolish unless the game was dying anyway, in which case my quitting would only be my getting off a sinking ship.

PS, I just avert my eyes when 'cash for skills' is mentioned.

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Caco De'mon
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#150 - 2016-08-31 16:49:22 UTC
Quote:
If EVE ever goes to a F2P model I'll stop playing.
- Valkin Mordirc


Quote:
I like Eve as a sub game and if it went to F2P, the chances of me quitting are extremely likely.
- Roenok Baalnorn


Quote:
If Eve ever became p2w - f2p or any variation thereof, I would not threaten to quit, I would simply allow my sub to expire and take early retirement.
- Josef Djugashvilis



Ciao!

*"See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand."
ISD Max Trix
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#151 - 2016-08-31 17:12:50 UTC

Since CCP has opened an official thread on this topic, I will close this thread so the discussion can move over there,

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=491738&find=unread

ISD Max Trix

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