Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I was thinking what it would be like to play Eve in a fresh sandbox and its rather appealing. Eve was already 4 years old when i started playing, so i never got to experience the untouched galaxy? of New Eden. So i was thinking it would be nice to have a new live server. I think it would also help keep trial members because many people dont want to start a game that is over a decade old with characters that are over a decade old and be a new player. It feels like they are never going to catch up.

So....

* You can pick which server you want to start on at the beginning of an account. You can also change what server is your primary server as long as you have an active account on both servers. Your primary server will be the default one for your account,so if you choose not to play on both for a while you can choose which you want to play on as your main server while the secondary server is active.

* To play on both servers is an additional $5 a month or you can use a plex to get 3 months of play time on the second server.

* The new server would be empty just like it was when TQ first came online.

* The new server would run the same version of Eve as TQ. I know some would like the original version, but maintaining two live versions of Eve would be a lot more work.

*NO Plexes would be allowed on the market for the first 2 years. No Skill injectors for the first 5 years.

* NPC buy orders for minerals only.

*Tech 1 of the following would be seeded: Racial Frigates, Frigate size mods, light and medium drones, frigate size ammo.

*30 days after live t1 ammo would no longer be seeded. 60 days after live t1 drones and modules would no longer be seeded. 90 days after live t1 frigates would no longer be seeded. 120 days after live NPCs would no longer buy minerals.

Benefits:

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*Everyone starts on a level playing field. New players dont feel like they will never "catch up"
*A fresh untouched new eden.
* Fresh markets.
*No rich players to compete with. Everyone is poor.
* No blobs, blue donuts, or mega coalitions.
* No capitals or supers for quite some time( this is literally my favorite)
* No sov. Now is your chance to stake your claim.


Optional Changes:

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* Redo the map so it seems like a new region of space. Different regions with different names.
*I would shrink high sec to at least 50% of its current size( preferably a quarter) and keep low sec the same size.
*Add what i took from high sec to null.
* Remove 3/4 of the NPC sov systems in null and replace them with player sov null.

Yes. Try posting something constructive. Also given that you posted literally 45 seconds after i started the thread...im pretty sure you didnt even bother reading it,so you dont get a vote.

Eve does not need multiple server, this is not WoW

You really dont understand eve politics do you? Alliance A can field x amount of caps. Alliance B can field twice as many caps. Alliance A forms a coalition with Alliance C to balance the power. Alliance B forms a coalition with Alliance D so they now have more caps than A/C. A/C adds alliance E to their coalition. so on and so forth.

On a fresh server, your not going to have that mess. Your not going to have alliances that have trillions of isk that can just throw ships at an alliance until they dissolve. Your not going to have dread bombs and alliances that can field more avatars than the opposing alliance can field pilots period.

It will take years to get to that state. Do you really think that most alliances like Goons, PL, NC, etc. are going to just start new? You think they are going to give up their supers, trillions of isk, and hundreds of millions of SP and the ability to just inject a character to max skills? Nope. The people that will migrate will be people looking for a fresh start, somewhere away from all the current eve political BS.
Already going to personal insults? Why are you so bitter? Take a zoloft or midol or something.

Sure it does in the context im speaking. Fairly equal amount of SP, Everyone is broke, People/alliances havent been hording isk for a decade. One alliance doesnt have 500 supers while another of almost equal size has 20-30. I would call that leveling the playing field a bit.

Why did this seem like a good idea to you? What were you on so I know what to ask for?

*sighs* so narrow minded and full of hate...
... and btw, nullseisn't all of EVE.

Hahaha yeah i totally know nothing about politics.
And people.
And the dynamics.
Zero.
Nothing.
Oh boy you caught me.
****!

... lol


"Your not going to have alliances that have trillions of isk that can just throw ships at an alliance until they dissolve. Your not going to have dread bombs and alliances that can field more avatars than the opposing alliance can field pilots period."

And the trillions aren't needed, as the goons have proven a long time ago.
When everyone is equal, the biggest group wins by default.
And the groups will exist, because they are connected outside the game.
Your cognitive limitations focussing your thoughts on "money" are hindering you from realizing that.


"Do you really think that most alliances like Goons, PL, NC, etc. are going to just start new?"
Absolutely, especially the Goons. They thrive in such an environment.


"loser"
If you had actually used your brain to comprehend it, instead of your hate ...
... you'd understand hnat calling everyone a loser isn't - and can not be - personal insult.

And the last point... again, it doesn't matter. Your hate is too obvious, btw ...
... and nothing prodictive will come out of your silent rage.

It does not matter if 10k people can field caps, titans or rookie frigages only ...
... because everyone else can o ly do the same things. Nothing changes at all!

If you had friends who actually stick with you, because of the group, then you'd understand that.

There is nothing more to add or "discuss". This idea was dead from the beginning anyway,
because hate drives you and not objective thought.

Have a nice day anyway and hopefully you gain some life again.

wasn't there something related to eve about one server, one shard, one universe?

oh yeah a main selling point

Sol has the right of it.
The mercs would migrate as entire entitys , as would the null block and wh guy's.

We would migrate as devil's, not as individuals, why wouldn't we.

Not empty quoting.

Honestly, this idea that a server wipe will somehow magically put everyone on a level playing field is utter nonsense. Even if you wiped TQ, took away all my skills, ISK, equipment and everything, I would still have my knowledge of the game, my understanding of how to best make money, acquire skills in a precise order to maximize where I want to be, and my Agony bros to go kick ass with.

Literally, the only thing that would change is we'd be killing people in T1 frigs instead of T3 destroyers. And since Agony started with nothing but T1 frigs, we'd thrive a lot better than some of the late comers.

Initially there would be more variation in Null, but as the old alliances coalesced back together, the real differences would be next to nil. There would still be a centralized market hub - it might not be Jita, but it would exist. Wormholes would be even harder to get a foothold in because the wormhole corps would have better ideas about how to secure them from the start.

In the end, we'd end up with TQ 2.0, and it wouldn't even take as long to get there as it took the first time around.

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