EVE General Discussion

EVE isn't exactly a simple game. There's a lot going on in a lot of different ways. It isn't really feasible for one group (even the developers) to have guides on every last little thing. The changes and updates that are necessary to keep it up-to-date are simply too many. EVE University have a wiki that does a good general overview of the game (wiki.eveuniversity.org). Other groups have information oriented towards other parts of the game. Blogs and Vlogs are plentiful, and information on which are valuable to your own preferences are as easy to find as posting to the New Player Question & Answer board asking (politely) which places have good info on x profession.

You mention earlier about having to ask other players, but the way you mention it, it sounds as if you're saying that's a bad thing. It isn't. Don't look at EVE as a normal MMO, because it isn't. It's social more than anything else, to the point where I feel it quite safe to call it a social hobby more than a social game. Ask (politely) questions in corp and militia chat. If you feel you aren't getting decent responses, ask (politely) in the many, many help channels that exist (you can find them in the channel list by clicking the little "talky bubble" at the top of any chat window). If channels such as E-UNI and the English (or your preferred language) Help chat aren't able to help you, ask (politely) in the NPQ&A board. If you can't get help there, ask (politely) on Reddit at /r/eve and /r/evenewbies. If even that manages to yield no viable answers, make a support ticket that (politely) asks your question, explaining that you've asked everywhere else but have not received satisfactory information.

The two key things to take away are (1) to ask questions, and (2) to be polite about it. This thread is miraculously tame considering you're in General Discussion and came out swinging and whining. Normally, someone who approaches other EVE players with an attitude will usually get an attitude returned many times worse. Conversely, a polite approach will usually receive a polite and helpful reply.

Calm down, state (politely) what it is you're trying to do (I strongly advise making a new thread in the New Player Question & Answer board to do this) and you'll receive ample information.


Khergit is very, very accurate in his description of MinMil. Grindyll, if you want to do FW, I would advise looking into joining the Gallente Militia. They're much more organized and group-oriented (though they have their moments...) and, since they're allied with MinMil, your actions in MinMil won't have had a negative effect on your standings with them.

Is this thread an example of why new players should default to the newb subforum?

Plan: Make a newbie alt, make one of these posts on here or Reddit, wait a couple of hours for people to notice it and who posted it.

Copy Spaceship Barbie's scam.

iderno is now my new favorite word.

Did you seriously just stamp your foot? I thought only girls did that on TV.
Anyways, when you want to learn the ropes maybe EvE-University would be a good start for a young Padawan like you.

He might be British. They are known for their slight understatements.

Not saying your other info is wrong but that statement above is...a solo capsuleer, as long as that's how they want to play, can be 100% fine by themselves....They need to know how to look and learn on their own of course...

Not only is he smarter than CCP - he is re-writing the dictionary as well I see

Most things in game dont have a one off answer. Its not a A>B>C>D game. Its a sandbox game. The UI is pretty self explanatory. The buttons are marked as far as i remember if you hover of them. And like everything else on a PC right click brings up a menu.

There is a nifty little chat box on the UI and one of the tabs on that says "ROOKIE HELP" . That would be a great place to start asking questions if your stuck. If for some reason that fails you the forums have a newbie Q&A sub forum. Both of these are moderated to keep the trash out. If that fails a search for pretty much any Eve with bring up both youtube videos and sites with an "eve university" address. Common sense tells one that perhaps we should look into this eve university thing and see what it is about...could it be... could it... be... something very similar to a wiki? I think perhaps it might.

Ultimately Eve requires you to have basic problem solving skills. This would be the same sort of problem solving skills that are required to fit the properly shaped block in the properly shaped hole in toddler toys. This is the level of problem solving you need to "figure out" the basics in eve.

It seems your problem solving skills failed you on many levels and instead of asking us here in the forums " Hey, i cant seem to find the answer im looking for on this, can someone tell me...." You decided instead to have a little rant about your inability to problem solve using simple logic.

Eve is not a game in which your hand is held, Eve is not a game in which you are given a direction. Your story is yours, its not pre written by a dev and then you follow along acting it out while reading lengthy conversations between your character and NPCs .

You decide what you want to do and how you want to do it. You decide your own fate and your own story. You learn to use logic and problem solving and to use the resources available to you in and out of the game to be successful.


Im sorry Eve is to hard for you to learn. Good luck on your next game.

Troll or not, EVE requires certain traits to enjoy I think - mainly, traits associated with 'geeks'.

When I started, there was just so much stuff to read & digest. And I loved it. I loved checking out all the modules, Show Info and comparing the stats & etc. I spent a lot of time just browsing the market and reading Item Descriptions and attributes, all the while thinking 'this is so cool!'.

I experimented a lot and lost a lot. Some told me to 'experiment on SiSi', but I never found appeal of experimenting on SiSI (at least when it comes to PVP fits and such). I always enjoyed theorycrafting & putting something together, and commit real ISK and assets to the 'experiment' on Tranquility.

No intuitive learning curve? I like that. And many 'geeks' like me probably like that too. If you give a complete walk-through to a geek and ask him to read it from cover to cover, he probably won't enjoy it too much. You give a big mess of tangled stuff to a geek, and say 'hey here you go. See what you can do with this', then it could be hours (or even years...) of fun. :)