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Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#1 - 2016-08-24 01:34:04 UTC
Instead of bickering about ideas for EVE... pro, cons, trollig ect ect..


Try focusing on suggesting CCP to make EVE 2...




1. Redo a the economics in EVE 2. Make players and NPC work more together and against each other. Make players be dependent on NPC.

2. Corporations have a overhead and employees. (NPC and players)

3. Ships have crew, NPC crew. Crew demands salary. Having a large Collection of active ships standing, will bleed ur wallet.

4. Most highsec wont allow larger armed ships. Crime in Hi-sec will be heavily punish by denied entry to hi-sec and Instant podding at any atempt to re-enter hi-sec for 1 year/or a moth.

5. Guns fittings ect ect are not sold in hi-sec.

6. Hi-sec will nessesary not be hi-sec forever. If priate faction invade hi-sec system successfully, it will become low or nullsec until its retaken.

7. A large variety of starbases, even covert bases thats cloaked.

8. All Objects in Space ARE useable.

9. NPC factions/empires wont tolerate large player alliances in nullsec if they grow to big... if so they will declare war and begin invading.

10. Concord WILL do roams in low and nullsec on criminalhunts from time to time

11. All mining and industry must have concession from controlling faction/empire/sovholder

12. everything, anything, everywhere can be owned, nothing is unclaimable.

13. Universe is much more shrowded than now.

14. Star dies, systems dies, New get born. A dynamic universe.



ect ect ect ect....


Please add ideas


and let the trollchoir begin their tirade to try shut this thread....


Tallyho
Sammy Fischer
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2016-08-24 03:01:53 UTC
No!
Literally every one of those ideas sucks!
Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#3 - 2016-08-24 03:03:19 UTC
1. It was originally like that. CCP has worked hard to remove it.

2. Explain in more detail please.

3. As per the Eve lore, an ISK is usually more than what most people earn in a year. Given that capsuleer ships have tiny crews (most systems are controlled by the pilot), the annual salary is bugger all. Especially considering how quickly most people lose ships.

4. Capitals already aren't allowed. Crime is heavily punished. Auto-podding is excessive. What advantage does that have?

5. So you want highsec a hauling+mining+trading only zone. Pushing all missions and combat sites out of high is an... interesting idea.

6. How can a captured system be retaken if no guns are allowed?

7. Already exists, except covert bases. Covert bases are too safe.

8. Explain in more detail please.

9. Easily circumvented. Generic Nullsec Alliance Part 1. Generic Nullsec Alliance Part 2. Generic Nullsec Alliance Part 3...

10. This I'd actually be in favour of.

11. How do I get a licence in the first place? I need to mine to get money, but I now need to get money to mine.

12. What benefit does this have?

13. Explain in more detail please.

14. How often do stars die? I mean, our star is billions of years old and has billions of years left in its life.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#4 - 2016-08-24 06:45:55 UTC
Lol

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

Aura sound-clips: Aura forever
Tragot Gomndor
Three Sword Inc
#5 - 2016-08-24 07:27:01 UTC
You know how many years it would take CCP to invent EVE2, while still maintaining and upgrading EVE1. Look at other games, that try to be perfect and still being in alpha status for almost 5 years, and they have all their hands on just one project.

We dont need a second EVE. Maybe we need a second exodus.

NONONONONONO TO CAPS IN HIGHSEC NO
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#6 - 2016-08-24 08:10:55 UTC
Tragot Gomndor wrote:
You know how many years it would take CCP to invent EVE2, while still maintaining and upgrading EVE1. Look at other games, that try to be perfect and still being in alpha status for almost 5 years, and they have all their hands on just one project.

We dont need a second EVE. Maybe we need a second exodus.


Or a second Apocrypha.

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

Aura sound-clips: Aura forever
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#7 - 2016-08-24 08:56:45 UTC
CCP have placed their bet. They believe VR is the future of gaming and have established themselves as a leader in that genre. That is where I expect most of their investment dollars will be going. Eve will receive sustaining investments as long as it remains profitable and there is no reason why that can't be a long time - though Eve forever seems a bit ambitious.

Developers are paying down the legacy debt - features like the drifter AI, BIAB and the new buff/debuff system show that a lot of work is going on "under the hood". Eve is a better game than it was last year and I expect I'll still be able to say that next year.

Eve may be marketed as a PvP game but most players are highsec carebears and their subscription fees pay the bills at CCP. You aren't going to turn these players into PVP enthusiasts - compromising their gameplay will simply encourage them to quit the game.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2016-08-24 09:38:31 UTC
CCP has pretty much burnt all their bridges when it comes to EvE. Theyve never been able to balance the game. They failed to show any ability to manage their forums which is why most use Reddit instead. Their inability to rein in griefing and ganking is well known all over the internets. Their inability to deliver on promised content and constant nerfing of content aswell as their failure to fix bugs for years and years is legendary.

Unless they totally reinvented themselves and reset their EvE is Harsh therefore we allow scamming griefing ganking and absurd metagaming ideology I doubt theyd get anyone but those already subbed to EvE to sign up.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2016-08-24 13:36:54 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
CCP has pretty much burnt all their bridges when it comes to EvE. Theyve never been able to balance the game. They failed to show any ability to manage their forums which is why most use Reddit instead. Their inability to rein in griefing and ganking is well known all over the internets. Their inability to deliver on promised content and constant nerfing of content aswell as their failure to fix bugs for years and years is legendary.

Unless they totally reinvented themselves and reset their EvE is Harsh therefore we allow scamming griefing ganking and absurd metagaming ideology I doubt theyd get anyone but those already subbed to EvE to sign up.


Can I have your stuff?
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#10 - 2016-08-24 13:39:25 UTC
-1 - primarily because you want to remove high sec. Whether you like it is not relevant the high sec carebear game play style is just as valid as any other game play style in EvE.

In the end your whole idea goes into the scrap heap because of the developer resources required to make it happen and how that would affect all of the other projects CCP is working on, like game balance and content adjustment and additions to the EvE we play now.

Infinity Ziona wrote:
CCP has pretty much burnt all their bridges when it comes to EvE. Theyve never been able to balance the game. They failed to show any ability to manage their forums which is why most use Reddit instead. Their inability to rein in griefing and ganking is well known all over the internets. Their inability to deliver on promised content and constant nerfing of content aswell as their failure to fix bugs for years and years is legendary.

Unless they totally reinvented themselves and reset their EvE is Harsh therefore we allow scamming griefing ganking and absurd metagaming ideology I doubt theyd get anyone but those already subbed to EvE to sign up.

Blizzard, SOE, Daybreak, KEEN Software House and the list goes on are all well known for screwing up their games with patches and new releases so how is CCP any different? But in reality since there is no other game offered that is like EvE we really cannot compare how and what CCP does with the others because the challenges the others face are significantly different than the challenges CCP faces.

And I disagree with you, CCP learned some hard lessons from WIS, and several of their other fail ideas as a result of this they have gotten significantly better at managing EvE. The Ishtar thing in recent times is perhaps the most visible and talked about of this new way of doing things. Instead of hitting the ship with a nerf bat rendering it worthless as they did in times past they reduced it's capabilities slowly over time and at each step they waited to see how the changes would affect the ship and it's use. There is still room for CCP to improve but on the whole they are doing a significantly better job at managing this game than they have in the past.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2016-08-24 14:09:53 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
-1 - primarily because you want to remove high sec. Whether you like it is not relevant the high sec carebear game play style is just as valid as any other game play style in EvE.

In the end your whole idea goes into the scrap heap because of the developer resources required to make it happen and how that would affect all of the other projects CCP is working on, like game balance and content adjustment and additions to the EvE we play now.

Infinity Ziona wrote:
CCP has pretty much burnt all their bridges when it comes to EvE. Theyve never been able to balance the game. They failed to show any ability to manage their forums which is why most use Reddit instead. Their inability to rein in griefing and ganking is well known all over the internets. Their inability to deliver on promised content and constant nerfing of content aswell as their failure to fix bugs for years and years is legendary.

Unless they totally reinvented themselves and reset their EvE is Harsh therefore we allow scamming griefing ganking and absurd metagaming ideology I doubt theyd get anyone but those already subbed to EvE to sign up.

Blizzard, SOE, Daybreak, KEEN Software House and the list goes on are all well known for screwing up their games with patches and new releases so how is CCP any different? But in reality since there is no other game offered that is like EvE we really cannot compare how and what CCP does with the others because the challenges the others face are significantly different than the challenges CCP faces.

And I disagree with you, CCP learned some hard lessons from WIS, and several of their other fail ideas as a result of this they have gotten significantly better at managing EvE. The Ishtar thing in recent times is perhaps the most visible and talked about of this new way of doing things. Instead of hitting the ship with a nerf bat rendering it worthless as they did in times past they reduced it's capabilities slowly over time and at each step they waited to see how the changes would affect the ship and it's use. There is still room for CCP to improve but on the whole they are doing a significantly better job at managing this game than they have in the past.

And then released the most brokenly imba ships we've ever seen in EvE.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2016-08-24 14:10:26 UTC
Show us on the doll where the confessor touched you. Roll
Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2016-08-24 14:18:54 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Show us on the doll where the confessor touched you. Roll




To be fair...... the T3D's were a horrid implementation and threw out all the work CCP had done in finally getting the frigate, destroyer and cruiser classes mostly balanced.

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2016-08-24 14:57:50 UTC
Kenrailae wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Show us on the doll where the confessor touched you. Roll




To be fair...... the T3D's were a horrid implementation and threw out all the work CCP had done in finally getting the frigate, destroyer and cruiser classes mostly balanced.



Yes, but I wouldn't exactly describe them as 'the most brokenly imba ships we've ever seen', when we have things like remote doomsdays, tracking titans and the wrecking ball to compare them to.
Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2016-08-24 15:03:57 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Kenrailae wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Show us on the doll where the confessor touched you. Roll




To be fair...... the T3D's were a horrid implementation and threw out all the work CCP had done in finally getting the frigate, destroyer and cruiser classes mostly balanced.



Yes, but I wouldn't exactly describe them as 'the most brokenly imba ships we've ever seen', when we have things like remote doomsdays, tracking titans and the wrecking ball to compare them to.




also a fair point, but those things are very specific instance things available to a much smaller percentage of the player base

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#16 - 2016-08-24 15:26:23 UTC
Obligatory, we're already at Eve 117. Why would we want to go back to 2?

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Angry Onions
League of Angered Gentlemen
#17 - 2016-08-24 16:02:51 UTC
Goatman NotMyFault wrote:
Instead of bickering about ideas for EVE... pro, cons, trollig ect ect..


Try focusing on suggesting CCP to make EVE 2...




1. Redo a the economics in EVE 2. Make players and NPC work more together and against each other. Make players be dependent on NPC.

2. Corporations have a overhead and employees. (NPC and players)

3. Ships have crew, NPC crew. Crew demands salary. Having a large Collection of active ships standing, will bleed ur wallet.

4. Most highsec wont allow larger armed ships. Crime in Hi-sec will be heavily punish by denied entry to hi-sec and Instant podding at any atempt to re-enter hi-sec for 1 year/or a moth.

5. Guns fittings ect ect are not sold in hi-sec.

6. Hi-sec will nessesary not be hi-sec forever. If priate faction invade hi-sec system successfully, it will become low or nullsec until its retaken.

7. A large variety of starbases, even covert bases thats cloaked.

8. All Objects in Space ARE useable.

9. NPC factions/empires wont tolerate large player alliances in nullsec if they grow to big... if so they will declare war and begin invading.

10. Concord WILL do roams in low and nullsec on criminalhunts from time to time

11. All mining and industry must have concession from controlling faction/empire/sovholder

12. everything, anything, everywhere can be owned, nothing is unclaimable.

13. Universe is much more shrowded than now.

14. Star dies, systems dies, New get born. A dynamic universe.



ect ect ect ect....


Please add ideas


and let the trollchoir begin their tirade to try shut this thread....


Tallyho



What?

There is pants on head stupid, then there is this post. I feel like I need to re-enroll in school because I read this ****. Idea number 7 is kinda cool but would be such a pain in the ass for everyone to deal with. Everything else is more cancer than actual cancer.



S H I T P O S T I N G
Solecist Project
#18 - 2016-08-24 16:19:02 UTC
I like these ideas.
And OP's quality name.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2016-08-24 16:55:03 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
CCP has pretty much burnt all their bridges when it comes to EvE. Theyve never been able to balance the game. They failed to show any ability to manage their forums which is why most use Reddit instead. Their inability to rein in griefing and ganking is well known all over the internets. Their inability to deliver on promised content and constant nerfing of content aswell as their failure to fix bugs for years and years is legendary.

Unless they totally reinvented themselves and reset their EvE is Harsh therefore we allow scamming griefing ganking and absurd metagaming ideology I doubt theyd get anyone but those already subbed to EvE to sign up.


You seem very bitter about something. Would you like to talk about it? I can recommend some excellent therapists.

Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you. Also, iderno
Goatman NotMyFault
Lubrication Industries
#20 - 2016-08-24 22:01:47 UTC
if i suddenly stop responding, its cuz i havent activate some of my plex... yet :D

Yes if i quit, you can have my stuff...

okay....
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