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CCP Kill AFKING-Summer Expansion 2012 Campaign

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Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#321 - 2012-01-16 22:00:46 UTC
Ghost of Truth wrote:
Did you noticed the 2012 Expansion in the title?Thats why i am going to be bitching in every Expansion, until CCP says to me to shut up. And I am going to be bitching until it is fixed.Whatever it friggin takes.

And we'll be calling you a whining crybabby every time.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Ghost of Truth
Mad Dawg Industries
#322 - 2012-01-16 22:04:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Ghost of Truth
Robert Caldera wrote:
but there is nothing to fix. everything is fine so far. there is no reason why I should be forbidden to afk whereever I like, space is free for all equally.


you either dont know what i am talking about, so please get informed, or you are failing in trolling.Also, If you do know, and want to get all nitpicky on me, know that using Game mechanincs in no way as intented is forbbiden according to the EULA.Suck it up

From EULA

'23. You may not exploit any bug in EVE Online to gain an unfair advantage over other players. You may not communicate the existence of any exploitable bug to others directly or through a public forum. Bugs should be reported through the bug reporting tool on our website. '


And no, AFKin is no supported by CCP in any way.Its not a 'feature'.Its a break of the gasme rules.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#323 - 2012-01-16 22:06:47 UTC
A bug. That's your current attack vector, is it?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Ghost of Truth
Mad Dawg Industries
#324 - 2012-01-16 22:07:02 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Ghost of Truth wrote:
Did you noticed the 2012 Expansion in the title?Thats why i am going to be bitching in every Expansion, until CCP says to me to shut up. And I am going to be bitching until it is fixed.Whatever it friggin takes.

And we'll be calling you a whining crybabby every time.



Well, i will never called a goon.Call me crybaby and even worse than that anytime.Except Goon
Ghost of Truth
Mad Dawg Industries
#325 - 2012-01-16 22:08:13 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
A bug. That's your current attack vector, is it?



An exploit is the beter term.And it is teh main point of attack unless you didnt noticed with all the trolling pilling up.
Ghost of Truth
Mad Dawg Industries
#326 - 2012-01-16 22:14:18 UTC
Also BUMP!
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#327 - 2012-01-16 22:15:35 UTC
Ghost of Truth wrote:
Robert Caldera wrote:
but there is nothing to fix. everything is fine so far. there is no reason why I should be forbidden to afk whereever I like, space is free for all equally.


you either dont know what i am talking about, so please get informed, or you are failing in trolling.Also, If you do know, and want to get all nitpicky on me, know that using Game mechanincs in no way as intented is forbbiden according to the EULA.Suck it up

From EULA

'23. You may not exploit any bug in EVE Online to gain an unfair advantage over other players. You may not communicate the existence of any exploitable bug to others directly or through a public forum. Bugs should be reported through the bug reporting tool on our website. '


And no, AFKin is no supported by CCP in any way.Its not a 'feature'.Its a break of the gasme rules.



Wait, I apologize, but I could not pass this up, it's just too good.

HOW do you KNOW they are AFK?

Your description of this makes it very clear you cannot see them, or what they are doing. Clearly they did not actually tell you they are AFK, unless you are willing to believe they have trained pets sending messages for them.

At a guess, your criteria is that they have been online for extended periods, and you have not been able to communicate with them.

This does not make them AFK. It just makes them quiet neighbors. With such a gorgeous backdrop, they might have a soothing image of local nebulae on their bigscreen, as they meditate.

Why are you trying to bother them?
Ghost of Truth
Mad Dawg Industries
#328 - 2012-01-16 22:17:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Ghost of Truth
Nikk Narrel wrote:
Ghost of Truth wrote:
Robert Caldera wrote:
but there is nothing to fix. everything is fine so far. there is no reason why I should be forbidden to afk whereever I like, space is free for all equally.


you either dont know what i am talking about, so please get informed, or you are failing in trolling.Also, If you do know, and want to get all nitpicky on me, know that using Game mechanincs in no way as intented is forbbiden according to the EULA.Suck it up

From EULA

'23. You may not exploit any bug in EVE Online to gain an unfair advantage over other players. You may not communicate the existence of any exploitable bug to others directly or through a public forum. Bugs should be reported through the bug reporting tool on our website. '


And no, AFKin is no supported by CCP in any way.Its not a 'feature'.Its a break of the gasme rules.



Wait, I apologize, but I could not pass this up, it's just too good.

HOW do you KNOW they are AFK?

Your description of this makes it very clear you cannot see them, or what they are doing. Clearly they did not actually tell you they are AFK, unless you are willing to believe they have trained pets sending messages for them.

At a guess, your criteria is that they have been online for extended periods, and you have not been able to communicate with them.

This does not make them AFK. It just makes them quiet neighbors. With such a gorgeous backdrop, they might have a soothing image of local nebulae on their bigscreen, as they meditate.

Why are you trying to bother them?


So according to your OWN words you wouldnt have any problem for you to move your ship around no and tehn would you?I mean, you ARE there 24/7 so just warping to another safe spot to keep your cloak would be so hard and i would shut up and everybody happy...Right?
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#329 - 2012-01-16 22:19:35 UTC
Ghost of Truth wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
A bug. That's your current attack vector, is it?



An exploit is the beter term.And it is teh main point of attack unless you didnt noticed with all the trolling pilling up.


http://www.eveonline.com/features/castor/detail.asp#updatedshiptechnology refers to "Cloaking while targeting others will result in the targets being unlocked". I assume that means cloaking has been in the game since at least december 2003, if not since the game was first made.

So you're trying to tell me that it's been an exploit since then? Are you really going to try to go down that path?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Ghost of Truth
Mad Dawg Industries
#330 - 2012-01-16 22:22:44 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Ghost of Truth wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
A bug. That's your current attack vector, is it?



An exploit is the beter term.And it is teh main point of attack unless you didnt noticed with all the trolling pilling up.


http://www.eveonline.com/features/castor/detail.asp#updatedshiptechnology refers to "Cloaking while targeting others will result in the targets being unlocked". I assume that means cloaking has been in the game since at least december 2003, if not since the game was first made.

So you're trying to tell me that it's been an exploit since then? Are you really going to try to go down that path?



Cloaking as a feature is nice and cute.Lets me give you crash course

According to wikipedia:

'An exploit, in video games, is the use of a bug or design flaw by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.[1] It is often colloquially abbreviated sploit. Exploits have been classified as a form of cheating'

Cloaking=Feature since 2003
AFKIng =using that feature to get unintended bonuses=exploit baby!!
Ghost of Truth
Mad Dawg Industries
#331 - 2012-01-16 22:25:36 UTC
Also fro the same Article on Griefing and Exploiting:

'Game mechanics
Taking advantage of the systems that make up the gameplay. A game mechanics exploit is not a bug—it is working as designed, but at the same time is not working as intended.'
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#332 - 2012-01-16 22:28:06 UTC
And how long have people been whining about AFK cloakers?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#333 - 2012-01-16 22:35:00 UTC
Ghost of Truth wrote:
So according to your OWN words you wouldnt have any problem for you to move your ship around no and tehn would you?I mean, you ARE there 24/7 so just warping to another safe spot to keep your cloak would be so hard and i would shut up and everybody happy...Right?


What's in it for me to make you happy?

Furthermore, you are assuming they are inactive. All you know with any degree of certainty, is that they have not chosen to communicate with you.

They could be quite busy warping around, sightseeing the gorgeous vistas, enjoying the fabulous graphics.

MAYBE, they are watching you, and are reporting your actions to their respective fleets, anticipating that you will justify their patience.

Perhaps, they have noticed you on whenever they are on, and you are just witness to a coincidence of timing.

You have yet to provide any substantive evidence to show they are actually AFK. Just a circumstantial suspicion based on their presence.
Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
#334 - 2012-01-16 22:47:55 UTC
Ghost of Truth wrote:

According to wikipedia:

'An exploit, in video games, is the use of a bug or design flaw by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.[1] It is often colloquially abbreviated sploit. Exploits have been classified as a form of cheating'

Cloaking=Feature since 2003
AFKIng =using that feature to get unintended bonuses=exploit baby!!


Hmmm, sounds like that same reasoning could be applied to Local Chat Intel, as I don't recall it ever being intended to be used as a form of 100% flawless Intel, but as a means of player communication.

So it's an exploit to counter an exploit, all of which could be resolved by removing the original exploit, that is Local Chat Intel. Blink
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
#335 - 2012-01-16 23:06:23 UTC
the dude is either a fu*king rtard or just trolling. Stop responding to him.
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#336 - 2012-01-16 23:21:34 UTC
Xorv wrote:
Ghost of Truth wrote:

According to wikipedia:

'An exploit, in video games, is the use of a bug or design flaw by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.[1] It is often colloquially abbreviated sploit. Exploits have been classified as a form of cheating'

Cloaking=Feature since 2003
AFKIng =using that feature to get unintended bonuses=exploit baby!!


Hmmm, sounds like that same reasoning could be applied to Local Chat Intel, as I don't recall it ever being intended to be used as a form of 100% flawless Intel, but as a means of player communication.

So it's an exploit to counter an exploit, all of which could be resolved by removing the original exploit, that is Local Chat Intel. Blink


Genius... and he must have known we would eventually spot this, and reach this conclusion.

Good eye on that, Xorv!

Big smile
Mag's
Azn Empire
#337 - 2012-01-17 14:07:57 UTC
Ghost of Truth wrote:
Robert Caldera wrote:
but there is nothing to fix. everything is fine so far. there is no reason why I should be forbidden to afk whereever I like, space is free for all equally.


you either dont know what i am talking about, so please get informed, or you are failing in trolling.Also, If you do know, and want to get all nitpicky on me, know that using Game mechanincs in no way as intented is forbbiden according to the EULA.Suck it up

From EULA

'23. You may not exploit any bug in EVE Online to gain an unfair advantage over other players. You may not communicate the existence of any exploitable bug to others directly or through a public forum. Bugs should be reported through the bug reporting tool on our website. '


And no, AFKin is no supported by CCP in any way.Its not a 'feature'.Its a break of the gasme rules.
Please point me to the bug and or exploit.
While you are at it, please indicate how many players have been banned, through using said bug and or exploit.

I ask because obviously you either work for, or own CCP. Why else would you claim to know what they consider is, or is not, a bug and or exploit.

Thank you kindly. Cool

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Mag's
Azn Empire
#338 - 2012-01-17 14:09:00 UTC
Xorv wrote:
Ghost of Truth wrote:

According to wikipedia:

'An exploit, in video games, is the use of a bug or design flaw by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.[1] It is often colloquially abbreviated sploit. Exploits have been classified as a form of cheating'

Cloaking=Feature since 2003
AFKIng =using that feature to get unintended bonuses=exploit baby!!


Hmmm, sounds like that same reasoning could be applied to Local Chat Intel, as I don't recall it ever being intended to be used as a form of 100% flawless Intel, but as a means of player communication.

So it's an exploit to counter an exploit, all of which could be resolved by removing the original exploit, that is Local Chat Intel. Blink
I like it. Cool

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Ghost of Truth
Mad Dawg Industries
#339 - 2012-01-17 18:16:09 UTC
Xorv wrote:
Ghost of Truth wrote:

According to wikipedia:

'An exploit, in video games, is the use of a bug or design flaw by a player to their advantage in a manner not intended by the game's designers.[1] It is often colloquially abbreviated sploit. Exploits have been classified as a form of cheating'

Cloaking=Feature since 2003
AFKIng =using that feature to get unintended bonuses=exploit baby!!


Hmmm, sounds like that same reasoning could be applied to Local Chat Intel, as I don't recall it ever being intended to be used as a form of 100% flawless Intel, but as a means of player communication.

So it's an exploit to counter an exploit, all of which could be resolved by removing the original exploit, that is Local Chat Intel. Blink


This Logic is so broken that my brain wants to commit suicide.
The argument that according to you local is an exploit, so it makes another exploit ok, its so damaging to the world of philosophy that i can hear Plato and Descartes crying in their beds like little girls.But lets play the game.

Local channel had, has, or will have nothing to do with the problem we discuss in this thread.I undestand that after so many pages, its kinda difficult to follow it, but for some reason, when you see a AFK thread you assume that I am whining about see in him in Local.No.I could have seen him in D-scan just once, or he could make attacks in the system all the time and never jump thru gates.So his presence is known even if there was never a local.

The problem,for the last time,it is not that Iam seeing him in local.Please stop using this argument because you sound like little kids that his friend took his sweetroll.If you have problems finding counterarguments, then dont post.

If you think Local is an exploit, create your campaign to fix it if you have the brainmater to do so.Here I can give you the title also 'CCP Change Local-Summer Expansion 2012 Campaign'.

If you just want to troll, then it is simply sad.
Ghost of Truth
Mad Dawg Industries
#340 - 2012-01-17 18:18:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Ghost of Truth
Mag's wrote:
Ghost of Truth wrote:
Robert Caldera wrote:
but there is nothing to fix. everything is fine so far. there is no reason why I should be forbidden to afk whereever I like, space is free for all equally.


you either dont know what i am talking about, so please get informed, or you are failing in trolling.Also, If you do know, and want to get all nitpicky on me, know that using Game mechanincs in no way as intented is forbbiden according to the EULA.Suck it up

From EULA

'23. You may not exploit any bug in EVE Online to gain an unfair advantage over other players. You may not communicate the existence of any exploitable bug to others directly or through a public forum. Bugs should be reported through the bug reporting tool on our website. '


And no, AFKin is no supported by CCP in any way.Its not a 'feature'.Its a break of the gasme rules.
Please point me to the bug and or exploit.
While you are at it, please indicate how many players have been banned, through using said bug and or exploit.

I ask because obviously you either work for, or own CCP. Why else would you claim to know what they consider is, or is not, a bug and or exploit.

Thank you kindly. Cool


Just because noone has never brought it in that light before.Everyone trying to point it out was after a while so angry by the trolling tha his post had no much sense anymore....
Also I dont need to be an employee know what CCP thinks about expolits mate.Its right there on the EULA....