EVE New Citizens Q&A

Seems CODE players kept sending me eve mails suggesting I comment on this, so here we have a simple golden rule that will replace all that guff.

When you sign up to play Eve understand that you are signing up to play a game where you are to be farmed, it is how you react to that simple fact which defines whether Eve is for you.

Put these rules on the CONCORD billboards and on-screen stations : most newcomers don't get what this game is before subscribing and end up frustrated, which is definitely bad for the future of Eve

protection = usually happens before an incident to prevent something happening
punishment = happens after the incident has occurred

concord arrive after an offence has been committed not before. however im sure you are right and that ccp guy is just being silly

CCP Phantom, could you sticky this in GD as well?

Please? Pretty please? :D

Eve is FarmVille?

Good way to sell the game Drac:

Eve - Just like FarmVille, but in space

Awesome slogan.

Speaking of looking silly, what was the name of those police officers that arrived at your house to protect you after the criminal had already taken you hostage?? Or what was the name of the helicopter pilot from the coast guard that arrived after your boat sank to save you? How about the name of the 911 dispatcher that took your call after your car was stolen? Last time I checked, the police, coast guard, and other civil services exist for our protection or are they just there for punishment?

Again, to repeat, the fundamental message that you should always protect yourself and use the game mechanics to your advantage and that you should not depend on Concord to save you is all very good advice and you should follow it. All I'm saying is the line of reasoning that concord is there to punish only feeds into the notion that somehow it is always the fault of the person on the receiving end of aggression....that is completely false....it is no less repugnant than a defense layer claiming that his rapist client is not at fault because the victim dressed provocatively thus, encouraging the attack. It's is a complete fallacy and you cannot use a game to justify bad behavior. It does not change the underlying message of what the original post was about but it does force you to remember your conscience, if the person in question has one.

However, I'm sure you are correct and the person at CCP you were referring to can say whatever they want and it is, of course, always true because, logic, reason, common sense...they all take a back seat to the word of CCP, right?? Would you like a monocle with that?

Given where we are I'll go easy on you but it should be needless to say that comparing being told to HTFU and be responsible for your own safety in a game explicitly about conflict and emergent players behavior
to real world traumatic experiences
is disingenuous and frankly insultingly malicious*, not mention utterly ridiculous.

Go tell anyone from your family that being told to be responsible for your own safety in any competitive multiplayer player game is in anyway compilable to what you are insinuating and I guarantee you they will tell you to take a step back from the internet for a couple of days.

Step back, calm down, go have a walk, hug your wife/kid's/dog or whatever it is makes you feel better.

This is a video game on the internet, nothing worth getting so wound up about.
*Malicious in the legal sense

CCP Phantom

In earlier days in the game I can remember when half of those rules when you broke them CCP / EVE Online would come down and hard for the breaking of those infractions. It was in The Players EULA to follow. What happened????? I started the game at 2007 : 07-July : 05-05th @ 02:38 or 2:38 AM EDT or 06:38 or 6:38 AM EVE Server Time or 07:38 or 7:38AM GMT.

In that period I've been a long timer Yo-Yo player with my EVE Online account on hold by CCP/EVE Online (Thank you CCP/EVE Online administrators[whoever you all are] thank you[for long ago they sent a message to me in the early days that am I coming back or not & whether I would either wish my chatacter{still my only one to date/I haven't started another in the time I've played on Tranquility still to this very date/} to sell it or delete it. (Guess back then they had servers with less memory reserves to hold all the old accounts in escrow til either a player was or wasn't going to play/comeback then) Thank CCP/EVE Online for holding my account for still this game for however long it's been running. It's been the most fun space game I've played in my long gaming life.

How this happened that EVE Online De-evoled to the way it's played today it shocks me. Shocks me to see so many players back-stab & grab anything another player has. All for what .... That style of playing will only end up with this great game ending up being renamed to "Paranoia In Space Online". This needs to stop and End this set of the Paradigm to a Better more Saner form of Paradigm to play in "The Sandbox" better here.

In closing I have to say .... If that we could adopt a more Resourced Base Economy Format in the playing in this game where Good Honest Sharing & Bartering for stuff you wanted & needed was applied more so then I know that it would be the new start to bring back the old way we played here when EVE Online was in the very beginning.

To all of you .... Happy Gaming in Space. Remember In Space It's Better To Have In Space Many Friends, Family, & Allies than Many Enemies, Foes, & Traitors !!!!!! We all need to live in space .... Please Get along Please.... Thank you !!!!!!!!

Well, now. It seems that this thread has gone straight to Hell in a handbasket. Certainly not the type of thread that I'd be very enthusiastic about sending a new player to any more.

CONCORD are reactive, not proactive. Everyone in the game knows and understands this, even if they feel it should be the other way around. Arguing over the definition of "protect" and bringing real-world examples into a game is sad and pathetic for everyone involved (myself included, now).

"Never fly something (or with something in the cargo) you can't afford to lose."

Another way of putting it is

"Never fly something (or with something in cargo) you aren't prepared to lose."

Because you don't necessarily need to be able to replace that shiny ship/loot/cargo straight away, if you have something else you can use to earn back the difference to buy the replacement.