Warfare & Tactics

jump destroyers dont work in highsec? i thought was kinda the point to them

The stated reason I remember was they would make it to easy to screw with incursion logi ,
which I will readily admit was my second thought about it.

ah right incursions - totally forgot about it ^-^

I was a highsec solo PvPer since I did not use alts during wardecs but I do agree now. Don't bother since the watchlist killed it.

Like I said again, thanks CCP. *glares in the direction of Iceland*

Highsec is as full of carebears and idiots as any other place in Eve. It just has different rules. Most of the best pvpers in the game live and pvp in highsec. It's just as harsh (or even more harsh) to solo pvp in highsec as it is to solo pvp in low or null. This is excluding wormholes, which I know little about. But yeah, that's basically what I think about highsec.

Neutral logistics, off-grid boosters, high-grade implants and expensive faction bat-mobiles; all together these things can run billions of isk. It's around 2 bil for a high-grade set of slaves, I believe. But this is what a lot of the highsec warlords do. Sit in a billion ISK ship, with 2 billion ISK worth of implants in their clone, a half a billion ISK T3 somewhere in system, and at least one alt capable of flying a Logistics ship.

Of course you all already know all this. I'm just making some context or something.

Here's a little story.

Ragenmeister was the epitome of a highsec warlord. A member of Failed Diplomacy. He was terrorizing the folk of Amarr back in the day. He had links, expensive implants, faction fits, the whole shebang. And I was still noobish at the time, but learning rapidly. I started out using Punishers with lasers and a hybrid active-buffer armor tank. After a while I realized the Punisher was too slow, and that's when I started using the Executioner, which was my all time favourite ship for a long time. Then again I realized how powerful and cheap the Coercer was, so I started using that as well. I wasn't successful at first, but after learning the game more and changing my fits, my Coercer became capable of beating pretty much any frigate who dared enter range of its pulse lasers.

Long story short, Ragenmeister and I killed each other a fair few times. Well, actually, he killed me a fair few times. I was brave enough to fight just about anything in my Executioner, and he destroyed it easily with his Enyo (really, I could have beaten him in the Executioner if it was a normal Enyo fit, but I wasn't expecting that dual web monstrosity). In fact it seemed his Enyo was capable of destroying just about any ship I had.

So I decided to try the Coercer.

And Ragenmeister was setting himself up for a fall. Talking all kinds of trash and about how great he was and stuff. I was right in on the trash talking, so it was a giant circle jerk happening in Amarr at the time.

Anyway, Ragen undocks the Enyo while we have a duel going, and there I am, waiting, in the Coercer.

Kill: Ragenmeister: Enyo
Kill: Ragenmeister: Capsule

It was a really close fight. A true, straight up brawl, between, a 100 million ISK Assault Ship with T3 links and a full set of high-grade slaves - and a 20 million ISK Coercer Blood Raider's Edition - how poetic! - with no implants (probably the two super cheap turret implants - ss-901 and se-603 or whatever), no links, no nothing, just a Coercer, a true freestyle solo pvp boat.

The bounty paid out for the pod kill was over 500 million ISK. That was more ISK than I even HAD at the time.

And I was always celebrated thereafter as the Hero of Amarr :)

Ragenmeister was never the same. He became bitter, and soon left. Failed Diplomacy either kicker him out, or he left from shame. People who used to be my enemy (because of hilarious trash talking and competitive sportsmanship type stuff) suddenly seemed to be on my side. It no longer felt like it was me against Amarr; it felt like Amarr was mine, and I was there to defend it. I did that for a while, then got bored.

What's the point of all this? I don't know. I think highsec pvp is pretty good.

#dicksoutfornightmarex

For some odd reason highsec incursion runners seem to be some kind of sacred cow to CCP. It's surprising the amount of consideration has been given to them when it comes to the design of highsec specific game mechanics even though the constitute 1% of the player base and are an absolutely massive isk faucet.

I have nothing to add other than I like this response.

I live for HS pvp and will always prefer HS pvp over null and low. Op talks about unfair , yet when I lived in low and WH space we where consistntanly out numbered , out gunned and outshipped. Hotdropepd by caps and way too much logi to count.

I have alts and lots of them , I advise get some . Like others have said adapt or die, I have done it all in HS i have studied9, watched others (ragemiester) and I learned by trial and error. I know most if not all of HS mechanic's and exploits. And if I can tilt any engagement in my favour I will.


CCP don't need to fix anything , you need to adjust or keep getting same results as you have been getting. Personly I find HS pvp to be more enaging as you never know who or what to expect.


Always asses every situation asses every possible outcome and always expect the unexpected. In all my engagements I'm always expecting the worst and if that's a massive logi fleet then so be it.

i'm guessing the amount of work required to change hs pvp mechanics for the better are to much work for too little reward in the eyes of ccp