Crime & Punishment

Yeah me too, most people fail to understand that AG is really a resistance movement in the main who try to educate people not to be silly and try to disrupt CODE activities.

Fact is when I thought about setting up something in hisec I never looked at CODE as worth going after, it was the war dec entities that interested me and the reason was there was nothing of value in attacking them and the mechanics were in their favour.

Though I am a CODE supporter with the content creation they bring, most of the people in AG and those who rail against CODE first talk about not being able to fight them. The problem is they see that the only option that you have to fight them is to go with your cheap ass ship and go blow up their cheap ass ship.

Which you are wrong.

The way you counter CODE and the ganking is through education. When a new player starts, they are basically given no education on what this game really is about. I feel that CCP really screwed the pooch when it comes to their NPE (New Player Experience). If these newer players are taught what they need to know (setting contacts, aligning while watching local, fittings, etc), then that should bring about less and less targets for CODE to find. Even I can go out and find easy newbie targets to kill with little to no effort. It isn't the newbies fault, they are just not given the education they need to survive.

I started playing this game three years ago (August 2013) and had a bit of a sense of the game since I researched it online and in youtube before committing to this game. Going through the career agents and then onto Eve University really didn't prepare me until I went into wormholes and actually joined a good corporation who showed me the ropes and it became an amazing experience.

But now the NPE sucks donkey balls. Have you actually tried it? Just make up a new toon and just run through it.

It sucks. Badly. There is no direction whatsoever. At least Aura told you where to go and what to do. I had my friend (41 year old man) try and see if he could figure it out and he got frustrated and told me the game sucks.

So, these new players come through confused...and then get caught up in these horrible player run corps who just tell them to get a mining ship and go pewpew some rocks. No education on setting CODE to red, watching local, staying aligned, putting some sort of tank on their ship, etc etc.

During my solo highsec wardec days where I targeted these bad corporations and exploded newbies, I would follow it up with a mail to them explaining on what happened to them and if they were made aware that they were at war. I was surprised at what they told me.

So I am actually at a crossroads in my Eve career. I could either go and wage destruction somewhere...or I could form a corporation and try to help teach these new players how to:

1) Properly fit a Venture, Mining Barge or Exhumer.
2) How to spot gankers and ganker alts.
3) What local is for...
4) How to survive wardecs...
5) Set up contacts for gankers and corporation/alliances
6) Teach them what Eve Online really is and how to survive this PvP game
7) Other stuff...

Been thinking on it for a while. Not sure where I will be heading soon.

TL;DR: You cannot fight CODE head on, you will lose. You must hurt them where it would affect them the most. Remove naive targets from the field and they have no one to make money off of, pilots will get bored and CODE *could* fall apart. But realize they are masters of adaptation.

You suggested that AG develop some balls and come to lowsec to blap your POCO's it was one of the biggest loads of shite I had seen on the forums and your point was hot air thrown in the direction of AG players because you are some leet lowsec noboddy shrilling for CODE. That is the conclusion I drew from it. You have no idea about operating in hisec and it shows.

And OP has biomassed.

About damn time.

You're right, OP. There's nothing you can do. The game mechanics prevent you from fighting back in any way. You might as well just join us and get in on some of this quality tear-harvesting that's been inundating the forums lately.


P.S. Nitshe Razvedka, that's a nice bounty you got there! 315 4 CSM!

That's the beauty of it. I've come to realize I kind of like what they do and how they do it. After a fashion.

Is it their fault nobody on grid has the nuts to help out? Is it their fault AFK multiboxers don't warp off? Outside highsec their victims would be even worse off.

A few tweaks to the rules or the ships may look good on paper but in the end, the hunter goes where the prey is. And their particular kind of prey doesn't exist anywhere else. This subtle interplay is almost a work of art.

Will still shoot them at every opportunity of course - they wouldn't have it any other way.

you have said you are done with this thread more than once, ill see you soon.

Nah, I'll just wait until CCP changes the mechanics so that the EVE community can actually retaliate against you and your boyfriends. I'm only interested in CODE tears at the moment. If CCP gives the power to the player to retaliate, the coalition will crush you guys.

I'm asking CCP to boost retaliation, I know its hard for you yall to grasp.