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Is scamming via forums considered valid?

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Jai Blaze
Honor Forge
Joint Operation Involving Nobodys
#1 - 2016-08-21 23:02:52 UTC
I'm asking because I may have recently been scammed by a poster of a service in the eve forums, and I'm just wondering if that is acceptable use or not before I open a ticket.
Chapo Muerte
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#2 - 2016-08-21 23:43:07 UTC
Jai Blaze wrote:
I'm asking because I may have recently been scammed by a poster of a service in the eve forums, and I'm just wondering if that is acceptable use or not before I open a ticket.


Story?

Also can you advise what forum section.

Thankyou
Yourmoney Mywallet
Doomheim
#3 - 2016-08-21 23:45:56 UTC
Jai Blaze wrote:
I'm asking because I may have recently been scammed by a poster of a service in the eve forums, and I'm just wondering if that is acceptable use or not before I open a ticket.

Character Bazaar? No.
Recruitment? Maybe.
Anywhere else? Yes.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#4 - 2016-08-22 01:10:01 UTC
Yourmoney Mywallet wrote:
Jai Blaze wrote:
I'm asking because I may have recently been scammed by a poster of a service in the eve forums, and I'm just wondering if that is acceptable use or not before I open a ticket.

Character Bazaar? No.
Recruitment? Maybe.
Anywhere else? Yes.

pretty much this

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#5 - 2016-08-22 05:39:44 UTC
Jai Blaze wrote:
I'm asking because I may have recently been scammed by a poster of a service in the eve forums, and I'm just wondering if that is acceptable use or not before I open a ticket.

Character Bazar is a huge no no. Anywhere else is completely legit

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Nitshe Razvedka
#6 - 2016-08-22 06:02:20 UTC
Where does it say Toon Bazaar "no no", genuinely interested.


Reason: Hypothetically, If I wanted to play the meta-game and block Archetypes ( self proclaimed) funding source from the Galt Express. Would it be ethically wrong to run interference to their operation or out-right against the EULA?

Just a hypothetical question.Straight

Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#7 - 2016-08-22 06:17:45 UTC
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Where does it say Toon Bazaar "no no", genuinely interested.


Reason: Hypothetically, If I wanted to play the meta-game and block Archetypes ( self proclaimed) funding source from the Galt Express. Would it be ethically wrong to run interference to their operation or out-right against the EULA?

Just a hypothetical question.Straight

Go read the rules posted in the sticky on the bazzar

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Nitshe Razvedka
#8 - 2016-08-22 06:29:28 UTC
Point 19. All scams involving character transfers are strictly prohibited, and are a bannable offence.

They need to define scam. I assume in Eve a scam is defined as a profit making scheme.

If you are disrupting or running interference, for no personal profit from a particular trade, does that fall under scam? Straight

Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.

Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
Yourmoney Mywallet
Doomheim
#9 - 2016-08-22 08:01:53 UTC
^ Try it. No really, please do.

I am in no way suggesting this because we'd finally be rid of you forever as a result.
Nitshe Razvedka
#10 - 2016-08-22 08:11:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Nitshe Razvedka
You know I like Archie's n would never do that.

My Rapture is not so easy. Smile

Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.

Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
Jai Blaze
Honor Forge
Joint Operation Involving Nobodys
#11 - 2016-08-22 08:56:32 UTC
It was a standings boost service, I paid and haven't heard from them since, I intentionally started with a low boost amount but any isk lost is of course a nuisance and I was curious on forums policy on the matter.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#12 - 2016-08-22 09:15:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Noragen Neirfallas
Jai Blaze wrote:
It was a standings boost service, I paid and haven't heard from them since, I intentionally started with a low boost amount but any isk lost is of course a nuisance and I was curious on forums policy on the matter.

The policy is use at your own risk. Much like local chat. Make sure you use a service that has solid recommendations next time and always use a third party for ISK transactions. My personal suggestions in order of expense/credibility 'Mobadder Thworst' (he may have actually gone inactive), Myself 'Noragen Neirfallas' and finally he is a bit of a troll but very professional Mr 'Cyclo Hexanol'

Good luck and I hope this helped

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Morgan Agrivar
Doomheim
#13 - 2016-08-22 10:29:23 UTC
Sounds like that sucks. I would only get services from those I personally have some trust with.

Sounds like you got scammed. Learn from your mistake, young padawan.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#14 - 2016-08-22 12:35:26 UTC
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:

Reason: Hypothetically, If I wanted to play the meta-game and block Archetypes ( self proclaimed) funding source from the Galt Express. Would it be ethically wrong to run interference to their operation or out-right against the EULA?

What does this have to do with the OP asking where scamming was legal? (Character bazaar being the only place)
Get your head out of your ass Nitshie

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Nitshe Razvedka
#15 - 2016-08-22 13:22:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Nitshe Razvedka
Topic title - Is scamming via forums considered valid.

Post number 3 - mentions Character bazaar as no.

My post questions the definition of a scam.

I also give a reason for providing a good definition of a scam within Eve.






Any thing I have broken down for you in simplistic terms unrelated to the topic title? Roll

Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.

Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#16 - 2016-08-22 13:37:44 UTC
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Topic title - Is scamming via forums considered valid.

Post number 2 - mentions Character bazaar as no.

My post questions the definition of a scam.

I also give a reason for providing a good definition of a scam within Eve.






Any thing I have broken down for you in simplistic terms unrelated to the topic title? Roll

Refer to the thing I quoted you on. 100% irrelevant to the original post.

Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.

Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER

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CCL Loyalist
Nitshe Razvedka
#17 - 2016-08-22 13:44:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Nitshe Razvedka
Now you have changed your original question. Didn't read the subject title did we? Called the topic. I would suggest the Op's preamble was open to my reply also, albeit vague.

Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.

Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
Yourmoney Mywallet
Doomheim
#18 - 2016-08-22 15:32:53 UTC
Jai Blaze wrote:
It was a standings boost service, I paid and haven't heard from them since.

Whodunit?
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#19 - 2016-08-22 16:16:06 UTC
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Topic title - Is scamming via forums considered valid.

Post number 3 - mentions Character bazaar as no.

My post questions the definition of a scam.

I also give a reason for providing a good definition of a scam within Eve.






Any thing I have broken down for you in simplistic terms unrelated to the topic title? Roll

you know what they are like,
they keep the line as blurry and broad as possible to stop us from gaming it right to the edge.
dont **** about with the bazar, no amount of semantic fiddling will make that unclear

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Nitshe Razvedka
#20 - 2016-08-22 16:29:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Nitshe Razvedka
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:


they keep the line as blurry and broad as possible to stop us from gaming it right to the edge.



Short of a definition for scam, that was the answer I was looking for. Thx. Smile

Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.

Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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