EVE General Discussion

You should have scrolled up before you corrected me.

Try again.

Ah, the inflated ego of the average.
Well, there's nothing more to add to this. :)

Wait on a second.

People are complaining about TOO MUCH MODERATION?!

Do they not realise how few people actually get banned around here? How hard it is to get banned? I know, I've tried, just to see how far I can go. I've spent, in my thirty years of gaming, a lot of time on gaming forums, and it usually takes me less than about a month to get a short ban on almost all of them.

Except this one.

The mods here are incredibly patient and lenient and know how to allow a community to grow. They know to let heated arguments run their course, only stepping in if things actually catch fire.

Have they dun ****** up occasionally? Sure, and I have my criticisms, but I usually don't feel the need to voice them due to how impressively inclusive the mods try to keep this forum.

I've noticed the mods here tend more towards community self-moderation, hoping not to have to step in too much at all. I'll be honest, sometimes in the past I've wondered if they're just being lazy.

I post here more often, probably out of familiarity. But I think Reddit is better and in fine Scoreboard fashion, several CCP employees seem to agree.

You can't blame them, these forums are all whining and meta gaming (the people who can't succeed in game run to the forums to try to do an end-around against their enemies , trying to manipulate the devs into make the game eaiser for them and harder for the people they don't like).

Reddit posts are actually fun to read, EVE forum posts can be super cringe-worthy. They are current and informative rather than the endless crying about ganking and afk cloaking or lack of WiS. They are more about the rest of EVE space (where people do interesting things) where as the busiest forum sections here revolve around high security space.

And then there is that downvote feature. It's the best thing about reddit. The most hilarious thing to watch is how the downvoted people try to portray themselves as some kind of victim, some hero of justice done wrong by 'the big entities', when in reality they are mostly just manipulative attention seeking asshats with asshat agendas that are so transparent everyone can see what they are after, and the community punishes them appropriately.

You can't do that here. The best you can do here is use the ignore function and you are still going to see these idiots talk because some other idiot is going to quote them. Maybe if CCP provided a forum that would seem tohave been built in this century (where ignore means ignore) that would help some. But I doubt it.



I understand that, but that says a lot too. These forums = high sec. Reddit = low/null

The very core of what a free marketplace of ideas should be. I may not like an idea, you may not like mine, but we get an opportunity to discuss it because that's what a forum should be for, and rather than an echo chamber of groupthink, sometimes we'll clash on those ideas. This is healthy dialectic, and without it, my earliest opinions of EVE would not have changed as they did. In my experience, you guys have done well to uphold these virtues of free expression, so thank you all for a job well done.

I don't think you guys do a bad job at all, especially given what you are up against. I do the same kind of thing in real life and I know how hard it can be to maintain a balance. I don't think ISDs are a problem, but their are 'natural' non-ISD caused issues that pop up given the mission of these forums. Thus people seek out other places to talk about EVE.

One reason Reddit is so popular IMO is because it is free of the constraints these forums have to operate under. Nothing wrong with that IMO.

There's a good reason ISD let arguments play out for a while. Ending an argument prematurely has a nasty habit of further insensing/inflaming 'wounded' parties to it. This can result in those parties becoming even more inflamatory. Usually, even heated arguments will run their course without ISD having to do anything. People cool down and move on all on their own, and the argument is forgotten.

It's actually very smart, and helps build community. In many other forums I've been to, I and others get shut down/banned too quickly to actually form any relationship with other forum posters. Community is hard to build that way. If you let a little flame war run its course.... well, let's just say that there are plenty of people around here that I've tustled with that I'd gladly have a beer with.

Thou shalt not covet another website's forum.


BLASPHEMY!

You cannot censor me in this forum. Here I'm free... FREE, I SAY!!!

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I agree so much with this. R/EVE posts often gives me energy (funny AMAs, Memes, anekdotes, funny KM etc.) and the posts on these forums mostly suck my energy and makes me RL semi depressed when I leave the computer. Hence I often take long breaks from these forums. There are hardly any fun threads anymore on here. It is just the same complaints and threads with 200 pages done by ~20 players discussing in circles.

Plus I don't like how people discuss here. It is always more like two deaf poeple screaming out their very different point of views, than a real discussion. Also I think the quality of discussion is better on R/EVE. Here people often commit logical fallacies and other bad discussion techniques, which is just a waste of time engaging in.