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Ishtar/VNI L3/4 (blitz)
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Danna Hande
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2016-08-21 10:39:10 UTC
Dear community, I need your help.

I am looking for a Vexor Navy or Ishtar L3/4 missions fit. I have Gallente Cruiser + HAC V, light, medium and heavy drones + their supports skills V. I do not have sentry drones at all tho. I have excellent armor/shield tanking skills, but very very poor gunnery skills. So i guess i have to rely on pure drone damage, not sure how to manage aggro then.

Is there a fit for me? I would prefer the blitz way (at least L3), as i don´t want to bother with looting/salvaging and i would prefer a stable capacitor fit.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2016-08-21 11:07:18 UTC
Looks like you know already what you want, could try and make a fit first and then we can help improve it.

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#3 - 2016-08-21 11:18:15 UTC
Yes Smile

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Danna Hande
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2016-08-21 11:20:24 UTC
Well, something like this. But i am really unsure about it.

[Vexor Navy Issue]
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Medium Armor Repairer II

Medium Cap Battery II
Medium Cap Battery II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
10MN Afterburner II

Drone Link Augmentor II
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Anti-Explosive Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Nanobot Accelerator II

Berserker II x5
Infiltrator II x5
napaCeN
just a tax corp
#5 - 2016-08-21 12:45:15 UTC
if i was you i would try something like a speed shield ishtar fit, which means u run a 100mn ab, an pith x type large shield booster, and in lows depending ur skills u fit 2or3 flux coils togetther with ddas, rigs also cap control circuits tec2 ones, and it will be stable, with great dps, very good tank cause of speed and boost
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#6 - 2016-08-21 15:50:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Donnachadh
Danna Hande wrote:
not sure how to manage aggro then.

Of these two the Ishtar would be my choice, shield or armor would depend on your skills but then the others have this pretty well covered so I want to address the quoted section above.
Any guns are better than no guns because they can help with agro on your drones.
Using a NOS I have had some success in controlling agro so that may be worth a try and the extra cap you get along with it cannot hurt.
Any other form of EWAR you can find a slot for will help as well.
In the end agro control for your drones will be a constant problem and the use of sentries will help. Yes they will still draw agro but the longer engagement ranges possible with sentries combined with their fast recall makes them an excellent choice.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2016-08-22 15:21:43 UTC
I would recommend ishtar as well, people seriously underestimate how much the speed bonus to drones does, especially if you want to blitz.

[Ishtar, level 4]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Medium Armor Repairer II

Drone Navigation Computer II
100MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Large Compact Pb-Acid Cap Battery
Target Painter II

[Empty High slot]
Drone Link Augmentor II
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II


Berserker II x5

Berserkers in this fit move at 4km/s!!!!

it's not the best fit but it's something to work off (resists tailored against angels, can change the hardeners ofc)

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#8 - 2016-08-24 08:08:01 UTC
Now I am curious, what is the purpose of "blitzing" when doing missions?

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Varcutii Renalard
#9 - 2016-08-24 13:56:44 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Now I am curious, what is the purpose of "blitzing" when doing missions?


I'm going to guess LP conversions vs. typical isk if you loiter on grid killing rats the usual way.
Gorr Shakor
Shakor Freight and Mining Service
#10 - 2016-08-24 17:56:31 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
Now I am curious, what is the purpose of "blitzing" when doing missions?

Mission level 1/2/3 >> to get stadning for lvl4
Mission level 4 >> to finish as many mission as quickly as possible in order to maximize LP payout
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#11 - 2016-08-24 23:21:21 UTC
Gorr Shakor wrote:
elitatwo wrote:
Now I am curious, what is the purpose of "blitzing" when doing missions?

Mission level 1/2/3 >> to get stadning for lvl4
Mission level 4 >> to finish as many mission as quickly as possible in order to maximize LP payout


Ouuh the LP. Okay I get it now. Thank you!

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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2016-08-25 07:21:32 UTC
[Ishtar, basic fit]

Drone Damage Amplifier II x3
Dread Guristas Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer x2
IFFA Compact Damage Control

100MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Pith X-Type Large Shield Booster
Peripheral Compact Target Painter
Domination Thermal Dissipation Amplifier

Drone Link Augmentor I x2
150mm 'Musket' Railgun, Federation Navy Iron Charge S x2

Medium Processor Overclocking Unit II
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I


Hammerhead II x5
Ogre II x4
Hobgoblin II x5
Berserker II x4
Valkyrie II x5
Warrior II x5

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Reinhardt Kreiss
TetraVaal Tactical Group
#13 - 2016-08-27 08:56:26 UTC
It doesn't make much sense to use heavies instead of sentries. Sentries have massive range and don't have to move around, this means that they don't waste time having to fly from target to target. They're easily capable of blapping incoming frigates and will on the whole vastly outperform heavies.
Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2016-08-27 09:16:30 UTC
Heavies do significantly more damage than sentries and have way better tracking, eventually you will have to pull your sentries in to sent out lights because some frigate got too close.

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Reinhardt Kreiss
TetraVaal Tactical Group
#15 - 2016-08-27 09:39:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Reinhardt Kreiss
Being able to instantly switch targets, not waste time waste time having to travel around, not having to wait for the MWD cycle to end before the drones actually start to apply decent damage to the target, not having to waste time reeling in the drones when they get aggro, being able to blap incoming frigs at range (1 every 5 seconds or if you give the sentries free reign 2-3 every 5 seconds) EASILY outdoes the paper dps difference.

Using heavies means you waste time. Why does this need explaining?