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FiS or WiS? Straw poll. - UPDATED

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Iceni
Doomheim
#1 - 2011-09-16 08:00:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Iceni
OK so we understand that CCP have only so much resource they can throw at developing EVE whilst DUST and WOD are in development. But where should they focus... Flying in Space or Walking in Stations? FiS or WiS?

My vote: FiS.

Absolutely.
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UPDATE: Summary of responses to post 158: the TL:DR

52% of posters only want to see future development in FiS. Some strong opinions voiced, and suggestions for fixes, rebalancing and new spaceship content.

29% of posters want to see future development ot focus on FiS, but would like to see the work to date on WiS finished off. Some specific references re: improved performance and the four races CQ's to be finished. Mixed opinions re: whether development should go beyond 'the door'.

12% of posters would like to see both FiS and WiS developed side by side, whatever the resources available.

7% of posters would prefer to see the future development emphasis on WiS. Some comments elsewhere suggest that this would be more if there was a pvp element to WiS.

A handful of other suggestions presented: including stuff like 'Flying in Stations...

I'll provide a further update if interest continues in this thread. Keep posting!

My CQ door will open - Soon™

Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#2 - 2011-09-16 08:02:55 UTC
Both.

Absolutely.

Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2011-09-16 08:08:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Florestan Bronstein
FiS

(I hope you realize that many of those people who would answer "WiS" have very little reason to be subscribed to the current FiS-centric form of EVE)
Lucien Visteen
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2011-09-16 08:13:48 UTC
Why settle for one when you can have both?

I want both

The ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't.

Iceni
Doomheim
#5 - 2011-09-16 08:20:55 UTC
Lucien Visteen wrote:
Why settle for one when you can have both?

I want both


But that's the point of this thread... we can't have both at the moment.

If you can only have one, which would it be?

My CQ door will open - Soon™

toxicvega
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2011-09-16 08:31:09 UTC
Iceni wrote:
Lucien Visteen wrote:
Why settle for one when you can have both?

I want both


But that's the point of this thread... we can't have both at the moment.

If you can only have one, which would it be?



I play EVE for what it is FIS
If you want WIS WOW is ---->
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#7 - 2011-09-16 08:41:13 UTC
toxicvega wrote:
Iceni wrote:
Lucien Visteen wrote:
Why settle for one when you can have both?

I want both


But that's the point of this thread... we can't have both at the moment.

If you can only have one, which would it be?



I play EVE for what it is FIS
If you want WIS WOW is ---->


What a sad state of affairs we are in when a capsuleer compares stretching ones legs to casting spells and jumping on mailboxes. You should be ashamed.
BeBoPp
Best Kept Dunked
Wreckflix and chill
#8 - 2011-09-16 08:43:41 UTC
BOTH

Now first get WIS done and then make a cool winter expansion with FIS.
  • Om Mani Padme Hum -
toxicvega
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2011-09-16 09:06:16 UTC
Meryl SinGarda wrote:
toxicvega wrote:
Iceni wrote:
Lucien Visteen wrote:
Why settle for one when you can have both?

I want both


But that's the point of this thread... we can't have both at the moment.

If you can only have one, which would it be?



I play EVE for what it is FIS
If you want WIS WOW is ---->


What a sad state of affairs we are in when a capsuleer compares stretching ones legs to casting spells and jumping on mailboxes. You should be ashamed.



Until I can run up to you, shank you with a knife, steal your wallet, take your $1000 blue jeans, and pry that ******** monical from your face with a rusty screw driver WIS is a **** release and worthless distraction from what EVE is supposed to be.

EVE is a PVP Spaceship game.

CCP should spend time and resources fixing what is wrong and forget about the stupid ass door.
Alpheias
Tactical Farmers.
Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2011-09-16 09:06:49 UTC
FiS

WiS fans can **** off straight to second life, and hang with the furries.

Agent of Chaos, Sower of Discord.

Don't talk to me unless you are IQ verified and certified with three references from non-family members. Please have your certificate of authenticity on hand.

Lucien Visteen
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2011-09-16 09:39:37 UTC
Iceni wrote:
Lucien Visteen wrote:
Why settle for one when you can have both?

I want both


But that's the point of this thread... we can't have both at the moment.

If you can only have one, which would it be?


Well, I feel that polls like these is heavily biased since most will know what the vocal minority wants by this point. (just look at threads below this one).

/steps up on soapbox

Nex is bad! WiS is crap! We want the old stuff back!

Hate me for saying it if you must, but it is getting rather old. If it is getting so bad why not take a small break?

You know, strech your legs a bit, go outside, smell the fresh (depending on where you live) air a bit. Why be so angry al the time?

WiS is nothing more than a social aspect of the game, a way for players to interract with eachother without having to blow eachother up or stealing from others. And I like that, I like that fact that you can kick back and just go and talk with others if you want, and when you feel you are ready again, just get back to your ship.

It does not hamper your gameplay in any way if what you want is to Fly in Space.

Yes it could have been introduced better, but how the fear of "golden ammo" turned into WiS is crap is beyond me. I guess people will complain as long as there is something to complain about.

Now FiS is what this game is fundamentally about. Making the game better in that regard is also something I want and like.
And CCP is also very mutch aware that FiS is what the vocal minority wants and as such they introduce the new 0.0.

They plan to make changes to it, and the changes they have in store is not small by any strech of the imagination. However, without fail I can guarantee you that when they do introduce the changes to the game, the very same players that wanted this, will cry and moan about it.

Please get over the fact that WiS is nothing more than an attempt by CCP to add something social to the game. If you don't like it, then don't do it. But do you really need to make hundreds of post saying that NEX is BAD, WiS is BAD, CCP is BAD?

Thank you for letting me rant.

/steps down from soapbox

Have a nice day. Smile

And for the record, I still want both Pirate

The ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't.

Xtraneous
Sam's Space Guys
#12 - 2011-09-16 09:50:34 UTC
Lucien Visteen wrote:
[quote=Iceni][quote=Lucien Visteen]It does not hamper your gameplay in any way if what you want is to Fly in Space.



If WiS was optional this would be a valid argument. It does hamper gameplay for a long list of reasons that have been debated for months.

Personally it's the loss of functionality in the hangar I miss. Yes there are workarounds such as keeping the ships window open but things take longer/more clicks now.
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#13 - 2011-09-16 09:52:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Meryl SinGarda
Xtraneous wrote:
Lucien Visteen wrote:
[quote=Iceni][quote=Lucien Visteen]It does not hamper your gameplay in any way if what you want is to Fly in Space.



If WiS was optional this would be a valid argument. It does hamper gameplay for a long list of reasons that have been debated for months.

Personally it's the loss of functionality in the hangar I miss. Yes there are workarounds such as keeping the ships window open but things take longer/more clicks now.


I think you missed the thread where a CCP dev (or 2?) stated that the hangar is, not only, coming back, but they have it running on one of their machines.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=63719#post63719
Hogy Faller
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2011-09-16 09:52:08 UTC
Both. But right now I prefer Wis,because summer Incarna is real preIncarna v0.01. Roll
Arin Fensfield
NOVA Innovations Inc.
#15 - 2011-09-16 09:58:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Arin Fensfield
My vote?

Both.

But failing that and/or with continued pressure from the nits think we can only have one or the other, 'WiS'. I've had it up to here with all this squabbling over which there ought be; the sooner Incarna is done and deployed in-whole, the sooner people will shut up and begin to remember/realise it's all the same bloody game.

Still, at least we know polls like this are largely meaningless whatever the outcome, given inevitably skewed demographics and percentage of players reading the forums and all.
Lucien Visteen
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2011-09-16 09:59:00 UTC
Xtraneous wrote:
Lucien Visteen wrote:
[quote=Iceni][quote=Lucien Visteen]It does not hamper your gameplay in any way if what you want is to Fly in Space.



If WiS was optional this would be a valid argument. It does hamper gameplay for a long list of reasons that have been debated for months.

Personally it's the loss of functionality in the hangar I miss. Yes there are workarounds such as keeping the ships window open but things take longer/more clicks now.


Another workaround is to merge the ship and inventory window to the same area as agents and such are located, that way you dont even have to walk up to the hud element in the CQ. And you save a lot of clicks

And I know that what many miss is the functionality of the old hangar. It has been driven home repeatedly. But again, why they first shout I want ship spinning! And then complain that it wasn't that they meant at all... why do it? Why beat around the bush?

Sorry for hijacking the thread. Lets get back to the poll for now.

The ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't.

Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
#17 - 2011-09-16 10:10:07 UTC
WiS can **** off until CCP can develop it without impacting on the core game.

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Kinis Deren
Mosquito Squadron
D0GS OF WAR
#18 - 2011-09-16 10:15:34 UTC
IMHO, both, although I don't know what the development time split should be.

FiS: Concentrate on fixing the little things that make players go crazy.

WiS: Attract Second Life types that might find they really enjoy FiS Shocked
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#19 - 2011-09-16 10:21:54 UTC
FiS

First, last and always.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law

Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpaid Tactical Team
#20 - 2011-09-16 10:23:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Meryl SinGarda
Kinis Deren wrote:
IMHO, both, although I don't know what the development time split should be.

FiS: Concentrate on fixing the little things that make players go crazy.

WiS: Attract Second Life types that might find they really enjoy FiS Shocked


You know, I hate to be a constant poster in threads, especially if it doesn't have anything to do with the topic, but I have to ask people questions sometimes: Is EVE not a second life, thousands of years into the future, in Space - the harshest and coldest galaxy since the Milky Way?

I think so.

I mean, people play games to "immerse" themselves within another world, so... I don't know, I'm growing weary of sweeping generalizations.

Carry on.
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