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eria Shi
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-08-20 12:06:28 UTC  |  Edited by: eria Shi
I keep seeing ppl who claim that pvp is the ultimate achievement in eve. So if i sum this up ganking 1 ship with 20 ship is an achievement ? Being told to target ship x or ship y like you were a mindless drone is an achievement ? Waiting for hours so a cheap ship can entosis while 2 combat fleet run from each other is an achievement ?

Ppl claim they want to see more player in the game but new player corp are war dec 24/7. Sure they can stay in npc corp but if you are honest with yourself you will recognize that npc corp are the worst place for new player .They are toxic place without any form of teamwork.

Lot of ppl claim eve is all ab out pvp , if that the case why faction warfare is not the most crowded space ?. They dont seek pvp they just seek killmail. I have a 93 % efficiency on my main account killboard , im not complaining cause I have a bad kb in fact my kb is decent but why should i be prood of it when all those kill where made during battle we outnumbered the target ?
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2016-08-20 12:08:59 UTC
So go fight someone outnumbered then.
NotTheSmartestCookie
Shooting Blues Everyday
Gimme Da Loot
#3 - 2016-08-20 12:10:19 UTC
eria Shi wrote:
... im not complaining ...


Then let's call it whining

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eria Shi
Doomheim
#4 - 2016-08-20 12:12:41 UTC
NotTheSmartestCookie wrote:
eria Shi wrote:
... im not complaining ...


Then let's call it whining


Its call waiting in hospital waiting for hour and posting out of boredom
Soel Reit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2016-08-20 12:12:56 UTC
it depends on what you mean for pvp.

Fair PvP --> AT
Unfair PvP --> TQ

choose your type of pvp
NotTheSmartestCookie
Shooting Blues Everyday
Gimme Da Loot
#6 - 2016-08-20 12:16:12 UTC
eria Shi wrote:
NotTheSmartestCookie wrote:
eria Shi wrote:
... im not complaining ...


Then let's call it whining


Its call waiting in hospital waiting for hour and posting out of boredom


So nothing useful to do and you decided to do it here.

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Funny, smartest, pretty and relevant. Pick 3.

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eria Shi
Doomheim
#7 - 2016-08-20 12:18:53 UTC
NotTheSmartestCookie wrote:
eria Shi wrote:
NotTheSmartestCookie wrote:
eria Shi wrote:
... im not complaining ...


Then let's call it whining


Its call waiting in hospital waiting for hour and posting out of boredom


So nothing useful to do and you decided to do it here.


Same as you bro
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2016-08-20 12:24:39 UTC
WOW you edited your post and it came out like that?
Look i know you have a moment with nothing to do but mindlessly hammering out nothing on your little gadget makes nailbiting look like a kind of self-improvement.
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Tasspool Harp
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2016-08-20 12:25:45 UTC
eria Shi wrote:


Lot of ppl claim eve is all ab out pvp , if that the case why faction warfare is not the most crowded space ?. They dont seek pvp they just seek killmail. I have a 93 % efficiency on my main account killboard , im not complaining cause I have a bad kb in fact my kb is decent but why should i be prood of it when all those kill where made during battle we outnumbered the target ?



You need to broaden your horizons about what constitutes pvp.

I spend a lot of time mining veldspar in 1.0 , terrorising new players in belts by pvp'ing their ore away in my overpowered mining barge.

This and other activities can be done largely afk, which provides the chance to simultaneously meta-game pvp on the forums posting large slabs of dross to distract players in-game from refreshing d-scan and falling for scams in local.
Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
#10 - 2016-08-20 12:29:47 UTC
I would say to start roaming low-class wormholes if you want better PvP content, but considering you can't even sit patiently for an hour, I don't think you'd do very well.

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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#11 - 2016-08-20 12:49:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Shae Tadaruwa
eria Shi wrote:
Its call waiting in hospital waiting for hour and posting out of boredom

Psychiatric ward by any chance?

In relation to your OP, there's really no need for FW to be the most crowded place.

One of the good things about Eve is that pvp can happen anywhere, for some people, that means lowsec in FW or as a neutral, in nullsec, in J-space or in highsec. Each has it's own particular style and different people find the area that allows them to pvp how they like.

Obviously, with the ability of people to choose highsec as their area to pvp, yes that means new players will find themselves in a Corp that is wardecced at some point, when they leave their NPC starter Corp. If the Corp can't handle a wardec, then that's really the fault of the leadership.

There are a lot of good Corps out there that don't care in the slightest about wardecs and continue to operate effectively, even in highsec.

The difficulty for new players is finding those good Corps. It's easy to spot the bad ones. Much harder to spot the good ones.

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Solecist Project
#12 - 2016-08-20 13:01:45 UTC
NotTheSmartestCookie wrote:
eria Shi wrote:
... im not complaining ...


Then let's call it whining

Dare I say ragewhining!

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eria Shi
Doomheim
#13 - 2016-08-20 13:15:54 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
eria Shi wrote:
Its call waiting in hospital waiting for hour and posting out of boredom

Psychiatric ward by any chance?

In relation to your OP, there's really no need for FW to be the most crowded place.

One of the good things about Eve is that pvp can happen anywhere, for some people, that means lowsec in FW or as a neutral, in nullsec, in J-space or in highsec. Each has it's own particular style and different people find the area that allows them to pvp how they like.

Obviously, with the ability of people to choose highsec as their area to pvp, yes that means new players will find themselves in a Corp that is wardecced at some point, when they leave their NPC starter Corp. If the Corp can't handle a wardec, then that's really the fault of the leadership.

There are a lot of good Corps out there that don't care in the slightest about wardecs and continue to operate effectively, even in highsec.

The difficulty for new players is finding those good Corps. It's easy to spot the bad ones. Much harder to spot the good ones.


Give us your main account i will gladly pay the wardec fee to see how you handle war dec. For the duration of the war you will have to be in hs of course with the corp you are part of lol

Prove to the community you are not just a big mouth posting with many different alt on the same topic

Im waiting got a few billions in isk let see how ur corp can handle 4 to 6 month of war dec while living in hs and not hiding in wh ... Ls or 0.0
Solecist Project
#14 - 2016-08-20 13:20:38 UTC
eria Shi wrote:
Give us your main account i will gladly pay the wardec fee to see how you handle war dec. For the duration of the war you will have to be in hs of course with the corp you are part of lol

wardec with *your* main account?

Shouldn't this thread be in C&P?

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Solecist Project
#15 - 2016-08-20 13:24:48 UTC
eria Shi wrote:
Lot of ppl claim eve is all ab out pvp , if that the case why faction warfare is not the most crowded space ?. They dont seek pvp they just seek killmail. I have a 93 % efficiency on my main account killboard , im not complaining cause I have a bad kb in fact my kb is decent but why should i be prood of it when all those kill where made during battle we outnumbered the target ?

i'll use this part.

Apples and Oranges.
Someone who likes to pvp, but doesn't go to lowsec for fw, will not go there because he doesn't like how it works.
Monopoly, Hotel and DKT are all more or less about the same things, but that doesn't mean everyone likes all of them.

You can play checkers with chess figures ...
... but you can't play chess with checkers figures.

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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#16 - 2016-08-20 13:54:46 UTC
eria Shi wrote:
Give us your main account i will gladly pay the wardec fee to see how you handle war dec. For the duration of the war you will have to be in hs of course with the corp you are part of lol

Prove to the community you are not just a big mouth posting with many different alt on the same topic

Im waiting got a few billions in isk let see how ur corp can handle 4 to 6 month of war dec while living in hs and not hiding in wh ... Ls or 0.0

OK, hang on. I'll create a Corp with one of my characters and move her to highsec. Then you can knock your socks off with wardecs all you like.

I'll send you a mail after I've done it so you have all the details.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
eria Shi
Doomheim
#17 - 2016-08-20 13:56:59 UTC
This topic is boring and the troll are quite bad a 5 year old kid would be better at it.....
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#18 - 2016-08-20 14:05:10 UTC
eria Shi wrote:
This topic is boring and the troll are quite bad a 5 year old kid would be better at it.....
This topic is so boring that you had to start a thread about it; and yes a 5yr old troll would probably have started a better thread.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Viktor Amarr
#19 - 2016-08-20 14:07:43 UTC
eria Shi wrote:
I keep seeing ppl who claim that pvp is the ultimate achievement in eve. So if i sum this up ganking 1 ship with 20 ship is an achievement ? Being told to target ship x or ship y like you were a mindless drone is an achievement ? Waiting for hours so a cheap ship can entosis while 2 combat fleet run from each other is an achievement ?

Ppl claim they want to see more player in the game but new player corp are war dec 24/7. Sure they can stay in npc corp but if you are honest with yourself you will recognize that npc corp are the worst place for new player .They are toxic place without any form of teamwork.

Lot of ppl claim eve is all ab out pvp , if that the case why faction warfare is not the most crowded space ?. They dont seek pvp they just seek killmail. I have a 93 % efficiency on my main account killboard , im not complaining cause I have a bad kb in fact my kb is decent but why should i be prood of it when all those kill where made during battle we outnumbered the target ?


The two types of pvp you mentioned are carebear PVP so you're right about that. However, lots of "proper" pvp happens all the time in many places, a good place to look for it is in WH corporations where people who to really know wth they're doing and generally also deal with people who know wth they're doing. Relatively small scale combat and high quality pilots.
Solecist Project
#20 - 2016-08-20 14:09:45 UTC
eria Shi wrote:
This topic is boring and the troll are quite bad a 5 year old kid would be better at it.....

You're just really, really bad at it mate ...



Why can't we be friends?

Why was the only reason you had to come here such a rant ...
... instead of trying to seek friendship?


Why? Why is your negativity the only reason you come here to post?


Don't you see how this is destroying everyone? Slowly, but surely?

All these differening opinions, each worthless under the many ...
... yet there are so, so many who put it in front, trying to shine out.


How about you make a new thread and we turn this all around 180 degrees ...
... and instead make sure we all get a win out of the situation? :)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
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