EVE General Discussion

If f2p just meant your account has like trial-like restrictions placed on it, I say who cares.

you mean like when i look at 15 euros and say meh it's only 15 euro.

You will find people here are against the F2P/P2W model including me. Honestly, if $15 a month is hard for you, then you dont need to be playing video games anyway you need to be focused on your financial situation.The sub model keeps out a lot of the riff raft and younger people. If you havent noticed a majority of the players in this game are old enough to drink and some are retired. It's not a game for kids.

In F2P/P2W, which i have much experience playing, free players are always farms for those willing to swipe the credit card regularly. The devs in those games cut corners, leaving major gameplay affecting bugs in the game for months at a time sometimes never fixing them. Customer support is pretty close to non existent. Thats why i never complain about CCPs customer support because compared to those games, its like having my own concierge. FOTM is always changing and you have to constantly buy in paying 10x the amount you would pay fora month of eve or more just to stay competitive. The devs in those games focus on the next special item or upgrade you need to stay competitive.


NO THANKS. I like Eve as a sub game and if it went to F2P, the chances of me quitting are extremely likely.

Let me stop you there. If the 'people you know' can't afford 50c a day, that is their problem, and their's alone. There is no business on the face of the planet that is responsible for catering to their failure to have 50c a day available in the first ******* world. If their poverty is such a problem that they can't afford EVE, then their poverty is such a problem that they have much bigger priorities in the first place.

that is one of the best comparisons i have seen between the two.

In one f2p model ive played , i started playing a year ago because of all the hype and advertising about the game. So i started playing and the deals were $10 to $100 for a list of various items you NEEDED in game to progress. The $100 deals had speed ups up to 50 days, and a couple of dozen types of chests each type giving you several hundred chest. So you ended up with a couple of thousand chests total. The items in the chest were mostly worthless. You could turn them into better items, but you needed a lot of the same item to make it better. you had to open 1 chest at time which required 2 clicks per chest to open. You would also get about 250k of the special currency.

I stopped playing after a month but still have it on my phone. So logging in now. For the same price you get 20 mil of the special currency. They have 2000 day speeds, which means they have skills and buildings that take stupid amounts of time to level. And you get about 250k chests. Now you can open these chests all at once, but you have to be a VIP. that requires leveling VIP by buying a stupid amount of VIP points AND then paying to make VIP active for x amount of time. So if you dont want to open 250k chest 1 at time then you are forced to buy even more stuff just to use the stuff you already have.

In another game ive played its the same concept. They have major bugs in the game and it has a huge memory leak. Instead of fixing the game, they constantly develop new things for you to buy. Deals are constant and buying anything off deal is extortionately priced. The PVP system is majorly out of balance to the point were the only thing people do in that game is open chests and make power challenges. You can open 20 or 50 chest at a time but they have went from a few chest a couple of years ago to chests that spawn masses of chests that spawn masses of other chest. On average opening a spawner chest, i would get 22 more chests for every one i opened. There would be several levels of spawners some giving mix of prizes and more chests and some giving just more chests.

Now people in that game have millions of chest and have been complaining for 6 months they need to be able to open more at a time because they just keep getting more and more and its taking forever to open them all. You have to keep buying new chests though to keep meeting the challenges. And the new items can only be found in those chests.

That is what F2P is like. Ive played many and they are all pretty similar regardless of genre or device its played on. F2P games are throwaway games that take very little effort to make or manage. They milk them until they are no longer profitable then shut the servers down. and make one that is almost like it and start over. F2P games are nothing but ponzi schemes that are meant to annoy you to the point you pay for it to stop annoying you. You dont pay to be entertained, you pay to not be frustrated.

i dont need to pay someone to stop frustrating me.

EDIT: Oh all the senior management of the company responsible for the second game dont even like to play video games. They dont game, dont understand players, or care what players like or want. All they care about is making money. Sadly if they were focused as much on their players as they were on making their next dollar, they would make a lot more money.

bro don't challenge me yo!

I would think those people have more pressing matters than a computer game to worry about such as eating and keeping a roof over their head if $15 USD a month is too expensive for 30 days of entertainment.

It's also worth noting that CCP, unlinke other subscription MMO publishers, don't charge for the client. Want to play WoW? Then you have to fork out for the game & expansions, and then pay a subscription.

EVE Expansions are free also, unlike most MMOs.

Then you better start looking for a different game to play, because EVE will go F2P at some point in some form. It has to or it will get left behind.

Not this again!
Okay, here is some free advice...

Nothing is free

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