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Stop the wars !!! I want to do my own thing !!!

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#421 - 2016-08-16 21:59:59 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Are ag honestly complaining about ganking something being hard?

This might be my favorite thread of the year.



I didn't complain.

Dracvlad didn't complain.

Solecist is not AG.

What's wrong with you Ralph? You usually don't post so poorly. Has the game gotten so bad it's soured your mood?

Loooooooong day, i may just have been projecting.

Alls well now though, back to my old tanked illiterate selfBlink

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#422 - 2016-08-16 22:11:19 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Faylee Freir wrote:

I actually found this out myself only recently when I posted a thread in the Features & Ideas forum to propose a nerf to CONCORD to compensate for what I perceived to be the problem of having CONCORD already on grid.

Apparently even with CONCORD pre-spawned on grid you still get a significant delay before they act. I forget the exact numbers quoted - but it was only something on the order of 10-ish seconds instead of 22....so certainly harder - but doable, in theory...


When i was ganking in my tripple volley thrasher with concord on grid ...
... i got two volleys out before i died. That's 4ish seconds iirc. Been a while.

I am not aware of the hp of freighter wrecks, but i thought it's more than 2k-ish.

Well the 10-ish seconds did come from a ganker who was arguing with me - and I don't care enough to experiment and find out I'm afraid...so take it with a grain of salt...

But I"m pretty sure it is what Faylee is referring to in any case

edit: Oh and freighter wreck HP I did look up not long ago, so that one I actually do have a number for - 15k hp

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Solecist Project
#423 - 2016-08-17 08:04:51 UTC
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Faylee Freir wrote:

I actually found this out myself only recently when I posted a thread in the Features & Ideas forum to propose a nerf to CONCORD to compensate for what I perceived to be the problem of having CONCORD already on grid.

Apparently even with CONCORD pre-spawned on grid you still get a significant delay before they act. I forget the exact numbers quoted - but it was only something on the order of 10-ish seconds instead of 22....so certainly harder - but doable, in theory...


When i was ganking in my tripple volley thrasher with concord on grid ...
... i got two volleys out before i died. That's 4ish seconds iirc. Been a while.

I am not aware of the hp of freighter wrecks, but i thought it's more than 2k-ish.

Well the 10-ish seconds did come from a ganker who was arguing with me - and I don't care enough to experiment and find out I'm afraid...so take it with a grain of salt...

But I"m pretty sure it is what Faylee is referring to in any case

edit: Oh and freighter wreck HP I did look up not long ago, so that one I actually do have a number for - 15k hp

Well, we'll never know because it seems she's just air.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Faylee Freir
Abusing Game Mechanics
#424 - 2016-08-17 12:08:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Faylee Freir
Solecist Project wrote:
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Faylee Freir wrote:

I actually found this out myself only recently when I posted a thread in the Features & Ideas forum to propose a nerf to CONCORD to compensate for what I perceived to be the problem of having CONCORD already on grid.

Apparently even with CONCORD pre-spawned on grid you still get a significant delay before they act. I forget the exact numbers quoted - but it was only something on the order of 10-ish seconds instead of 22....so certainly harder - but doable, in theory...


When i was ganking in my tripple volley thrasher with concord on grid ...
... i got two volleys out before i died. That's 4ish seconds iirc. Been a while.

I am not aware of the hp of freighter wrecks, but i thought it's more than 2k-ish.

Well the 10-ish seconds did come from a ganker who was arguing with me - and I don't care enough to experiment and find out I'm afraid...so take it with a grain of salt...

But I"m pretty sure it is what Faylee is referring to in any case

edit: Oh and freighter wreck HP I did look up not long ago, so that one I actually do have a number for - 15k hp

Well, we'll never know because it seems she's just air.

The time to shoot with concord isnt what i was referring to. Im talking about a mechanic literally only 3-4 people know of that is just another tool in the pocket. Just letting you know its out there, but im not going to make it public since i was asked not to share it and its a good mechanic that would just get cries and nerfs.

Go to SISI and start messing around if you want to find ways to bend mechanics in your favor.

HTFU
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#425 - 2016-08-17 12:15:13 UTC
Note to self : Dont share secrets with faylee.

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Faylee Freir
Abusing Game Mechanics
#426 - 2016-08-17 12:17:58 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Note to self : Dont share secrets with faylee.

Haha yeah i know im a tease.

HTFU
Solecist Project
#427 - 2016-08-17 13:27:21 UTC
And just air.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#428 - 2016-08-17 15:01:35 UTC
Faylee produces results.
I can attest to this due to a certain amount of envy occurring during his/her stint in Lords.
Battleships were molested. Feelings were hurt. Frigatry was running rampant.
I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss a reluctance to divulge sekrets as being without knowledge.

I may judge harshly those I deem unworthy, but on the other hand I will gracefully give credit where I believe it is due.


Not saying take it as gospel, I'm just saying the benefit of the doubt perhaps is in order.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#429 - 2016-08-17 21:21:58 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Faylee produces results.
I can attest to this due to a certain amount of envy occurring during his/her stint in Lords.
Battleships were molested. Feelings were hurt. Frigatry was running rampant.
I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss a reluctance to divulge sekrets as being without knowledge.

I may judge harshly those I deem unworthy, but on the other hand I will gracefully give credit where I believe it is due.


Not saying take it as gospel, I'm just saying the benefit of the doubt perhaps is in order.


I had noted Faylee from before somewhere. I instantly recognised the name, posts with a lot of knowledge which is very evident.

Not air at all... I would agree.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

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Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#430 - 2016-08-17 22:50:00 UTC
Faylee Freir wrote:

The time to shoot with concord isnt what i was referring to. Im talking about a mechanic literally only 3-4 people know of that is just another tool in the pocket. Just letting you know its out there, but im not going to make it public since i was asked not to share it and its a good mechanic that would just get cries and nerfs.

Go to SISI and start messing around if you want to find ways to bend mechanics in your favor.

You don't need to explain the mechanic. Now that we know it exists and that you how to use it, all we have to do is fly something shiny enough for you to use it, while we record as many details as possible.

Then we take it to Sisi and try what we think you did.

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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#431 - 2016-08-17 23:03:36 UTC
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
Faylee Freir wrote:

The time to shoot with concord isnt what i was referring to. Im talking about a mechanic literally only 3-4 people know of that is just another tool in the pocket. Just letting you know its out there, but im not going to make it public since i was asked not to share it and its a good mechanic that would just get cries and nerfs.

Go to SISI and start messing around if you want to find ways to bend mechanics in your favor.

You don't need to explain the mechanic. Now that we know it exists and that you how to use it, all we have to do is fly something shiny enough for you to use it, while we record as many details as possible.

Then we take it to Sisi and try what we think you did.

Well...if you do....don't forget to pre-spawn concord to make him use it P

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#432 - 2016-08-17 23:10:12 UTC
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
Faylee Freir wrote:

The time to shoot with concord isnt what i was referring to. Im talking about a mechanic literally only 3-4 people know of that is just another tool in the pocket. Just letting you know its out there, but im not going to make it public since i was asked not to share it and its a good mechanic that would just get cries and nerfs.

Go to SISI and start messing around if you want to find ways to bend mechanics in your favor.

You don't need to explain the mechanic. Now that we know it exists and that you how to use it, all we have to do is fly something shiny enough for you to use it, while we record as many details as possible.

Then we take it to Sisi and try what we think you did.

If it's the one that allows you to appear to be cloaked without a cloak fit even for a few seconds after you start shooting, then no recording will help you. It's a good glitch, but not something that you can work out without it being explained.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
#433 - 2016-08-17 23:18:43 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
Faylee Freir wrote:

The time to shoot with concord isnt what i was referring to. Im talking about a mechanic literally only 3-4 people know of that is just another tool in the pocket. Just letting you know its out there, but im not going to make it public since i was asked not to share it and its a good mechanic that would just get cries and nerfs.

Go to SISI and start messing around if you want to find ways to bend mechanics in your favor.

You don't need to explain the mechanic. Now that we know it exists and that you how to use it, all we have to do is fly something shiny enough for you to use it, while we record as many details as possible.

Then we take it to Sisi and try what we think you did.

If it's the one that allows you to appear to be cloaked without a cloak fit even for a few seconds after you start shooting, then no recording will help you. It's a good glitch, but not something that you can work out without it being explained.

While true - if one recorded someone using that glitch (particularly if you did so a few times in a row) - one could get the person using it banned... Which could be a decent consolation prize.

The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool. They lay. They rotted. They turned Around occasionally. Bits of flesh dropped off them from Time to time. And sank into the pool's mire. They also smelt a great deal.

Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)