Warfare & Tactics

Lots of reasons, and different folk have different reasons.

Suicide-ganking serves many purposes in eve. It can be profitable, depending on target choice and operation efficiency. It’s almost always fun and usually also teaches both gankers and gankees somethings about eve. Quality ganking is also technically demanding, as anyone who has gone after that whale jump-freighter or purple-fit ratter knows. Ganking can also be used for higher strategic purposes … such as identifying and taking out your enemy’s hisec logistics chains. Also, as folk have already alluded, ganking can provide a platform for various nutjobs - Is CODE. Really dead?

Ganking miners is not so likely to be profitable from an isk-perspective but it can be a lot of fun. The tears alone can make it very entertaining, even if the gank itself fails. Miner ganking can be quite technical too, especially if you’re solo or two-ship, because picking and choosing your targets and mode of damage delivery can make a big difference.

A long time ago I used to think of ganking as a low-skill lowlife type of activity. I did not know, at that time, just how varied and demanding it was. Then alliance mates started putting some alts with miniluv and their reports back were very entertaining, so I gave it a try. I did bumper work and DPS work, and then branched out to do some solo miner ganking, and alliance level ratter ganking (alpha rather than DPS). They were all fun and challenging in their own way, and taught me a lot about the game dynamics of eve. I can’t imagine doing it fulltime to the exclusion of other things, but it *is* a much fun thing to give a go.

Mercenary work in general consists of outlandishly rich mercenaries being paid by peasants to brutalize other peasants.

It's really quite funny.

As a miner i just want to add something. An 8 million ship should not be able to kill a 220 million ship, that is the case right now.
If you compare it to other ships it would be the same as a cruiser shooting a dreadnought. I wonder how ppls would react to that.

If they bring 30 catalyst they should only be able to kill 1 exhumer and not everyone in the belt.

That is what they call 'balanced pvp'. Sorry but ganking is for people who have no skill.... training for a catalyst and kill ships worth 25 times more is wrong. Compared to another new guy who needs to train for a mining barge / exhumer and spend 25 times more the isk than that ganker. There is no reason you can tell me it is right.

It is also through that injustice that people leave. isk is $, don't tell me it is not. So do not try to tell new ppls nonsense it is their own fault. It is a fault in the game. Why should a ganker not need to pay as much as a miner ? isk or $

Same for freighters. Should be 162 catalyst needed to shoot 1 freighter. That is balance.

I play hardcore games like diablo 3 and am forty years old, i played unreal, starcraft lmany other competitive pvp games, this game is the only game where pvp is so much unbalanced.


No need to reply on me, i just keep mining with a stupid skiff while i play competitive games like heroes of the storm or starcraft 2 where 'skill' matters. Try become the season champion of starcraft 2, that's quite the hardest game out there skillwise, So much micro managing, reflexes, adrenaline, etc....

In this game a $ 100.000 (cruiser) CAN NOT kill a $ 100.000.000 Dreadnought, never ever will happen. So that comparison from real life is nonsense...

Youre wrong and this post is bad. It all depends on how you use the ship. Just because a ship is more expensive doesnt mean it should be invulnerable. So by your logic a dictor bubble shouldnt effect a Titan?

Ganking is profitable because the victims make it that way.

Sorry story isnt over. Theres nothing wrong with a ship thats made,for combat being able to destroy a ship that was desig ed to mine asteroids. The fact is that most of the time a Catalyst will win in a toe to toe fight... But if you know youre going to lose that fight in your mining ship there are things you can do to evade death such as: Watching local, set standings for ganking pilots and their alts so you can spot them easier, stay aligned, fit for tank instead of yield, orbit the asteroids, and much more.

New people leave because eve is not for everyone. The moment eve tries to become that game like wow is when eve loses the magic of what makes the game unique. So i always challenge newbros to do some reseach into what they want to do and full prepare themselves to deal with both the npc and mechanical difficulties of the game as well as the real players thay can interfere.

There are different types of ganking, what is profitable:

Ganking T1 industrials, ganking DST's or BR's, ganking Freighters, Bowheads, Orcas and Jump Freighters, all carrying cargo, some with no tank and with little care. It is fairly easy money, but the bigger ships need a bit more organisation and co-ordination and multi-tasking skills.

Ganking bling fitted mission and Incursion boats.

What is not profitable is blowing up mining ships, pods and T2 fitted ships without cargo.

However it can get murky, because there are reasons to gank mining ships, because some resources are scarce like ice for example, then you have the act of selling those ships and modules. But look at CODE as having some people who like to be part of the cool kids club donating ISK to CODE to kill those carebears that are ruining the game meme type thing. CODE donations are an income source.

So while CODE may not appear to be profitable on the face of ganking mining ships take note of the donations, though they are not what they were.

Just see it as part of the fun of Eve and you have two objectives here, the first is to fit for yield and fly cheap in safe no action system and keep an eye on what goes on, or you fit for tank, get in a Skiff and tank it to hell and accept a low yield while having the fun of watching people blow up around you while your drones are getting CODE kills.

Yeah, they were listed above as being profitable but I did not make it as clear as it could have been in terms of my posts layout

Youre entitled to your opinions

The truth is that ganking is profitable because of two reasons greedy or stupid haulers carrying too much and not taking enough precautions and the gankers that minmax their operations and are efficient at what they do.

Why not?

Ships are tools, much can be accomplished if tools are used correctly; with that in mind are you also saying that a cheap sledgehammer shouldn't be able to total an expensive object?