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Story of a gambler - now gambling with ISK (August Update)
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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#21 - 2016-07-05 13:07:59 UTC
Toobo
Project Fruit House
#22 - 2016-08-12 10:58:47 UTC
Just a quick August update now we're about one third of the way through. I had some more cool wins but nothing major yet. Hit my 33rd 20b combo in Rat Race today and a few more Ice Miner jackpots.

I started the month with certain ISK target goal, which was set too high. I got over confident with winning streaks.

It's been a crazy roller coaster ride again. Started the month with about 30b and within two days I was up to over 200b in my account, then squandered all down to 3b or so, which was then followed by Lots of Money bundle wins and some nice doubles and tripples.

Then I switched my tactic and set my cash out point much much lower. Every time I had over 20b I cashed out down to 10-15b. That built up very nice cash amount in my in-game account, which I used to buy some very nice things and donated to my corp, who in turn sponsored some cool projects.

I realised that if I have ISK I tend to go crazy lol. So I give them to corp and people who have more long twrm projects hat are worthwhile.

Also got onto the life time leaderboard on various categories for he first time. Considering I only started playing in mid-May I have been playing too much lol.

But recent server issues helped me. I logged into the actual eve game more and did some stuff I haven't done for a while. :)

ISK is ISK and gambling is just gambling. It has more meaning when you feed th ISK back into the game amd re-invest them into in-game stuff.

Anyways, no screenshot updates for now since me on my phone atm. Stellar Pool is decent and it's weekend. XD

Good luck everyone!

Cheers Love! The cavalry's here!
Sequester Risalo
German Corps of Engineers 17
Federation of Respect Honor Passion Alliance.
#23 - 2016-08-16 16:01:35 UTC
Toobo wrote:
The house always wins. Don’t argue against this.


This is essentially all there is to say. You should've stopped there. Now you keep telling stories how you give the profits to your corp while still keeping playing. This is not believable. In the end everything you gave to your corp will not suffice to cover your losses and you won't get that back.

Looking at your original post I suggest you only gamble when you dream about a win. seems to work.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#24 - 2016-08-16 20:23:01 UTC
This is all so depressing

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Nitshe Razvedka
#25 - 2016-08-19 17:29:16 UTC
In second year psychology we did a number of gambling lab reports, I am pulling out my old text books as I type just for you.

Blaszczynski identifies three main sub-groups in the problem gambling population: the 'normal', 'emotionally disturbed', and 'biologically based impulsive pathological gamblers'.

The 'normal' gamblers are people that develop a problem from a positive reinforcement perspective, but don't have any pre-existing mental illnesses. "Usually they are people who start gambling because their social group frequents gaming venues, or they live in an area where clubs with gaming machines are common places to go out," Richard says.

"Psychological science suggests that that intermittent reinforcement is the most powerful type of reinforcement. In the gaming machine context, a person might have a couple of random wins and get a bit hooked on it - continuing to play in the expectation that they can win again. They are further reinforced to return by the social environment (relaxing music, attentive and obliging staff, free tea and coffee, inexpensive meals)."

People in this group may go on to develop mental illnesses as a result of their gambling, most commonly depression as they lose control of their finances, relationships fail etc., which can put them into the next classification.

Blaszczynski's second subgroup, the 'emotionally disturbed', has predisposing psychological vulnerability and possibly a family history of gambling. They display depression, anxiety, substance dependence, and deficits in their ability to cope with and manage external stress (Blaszczynski, 2000). These people use gambling as an attempt to solve or avoid their underlying issues.

The third and perhaps smallest group, the biologically based group, may have biological issues that make them more vulnerable to pathological gambling. "These people are highly impulsive and therefore can't resist the urge to gamble, which is perhaps associated with a biological impulsivity," Richard says.

"They may have a range of impulsivity or attention deficit issues, which can be associated with poor behavioural control. It may also be possible that there is something about poker machines that they find relaxing - although we don't know enough about this yet."

What group do you identify with? Mail me if you feel uncomfortable answering here.

The best first step is self diagnosis.

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Toobo
Project Fruit House
#26 - 2016-08-24 13:17:24 UTC
I definitely fit into the second group, as well as possibly the third group. I'm not a casual gambler who got hooked because of social/environmental reasons or by coincidence. I have very distict and definite history of various psycho/physiological conditions related to my 'habits', where gambling is one of them.

So it's kinda old news for me. I have a friend who got PhD in Psychology in UK and I did loads of interviews and questionnaires for him back then when he was studying. I'm already in good medical care with my issues so no worries - if you got anything you want to ask me/talk about for your studies feel free to send me eve mails, as I'm a certified psycho and tend to be a good sample for various research fields. ;)

Cheers Love! The cavalry's here!
Mike Adoulin
Happys Happy Hamster Hunting Club
#27 - 2016-08-29 20:11:18 UTC
As someone who used to play poker for a living (called, interestingly enough, grinding.....) I can state that the odds always favor the house. The goal of the casino is to keep you playing....eventually, you will lose.

If you have to play a game vs the house, single deck blackjack is your best bet.

You have a 17% of winning.

Good luck.

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And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)

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peggaroo
Doomheim
#28 - 2016-09-19 14:03:01 UTC  |  Edited by: peggaroo
Toobo you are the king hero of heros :) Man lost so much isk to you. All the best bro lol Good read to.
Iseult
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2016-10-12 20:50:32 UTC
Toobo is a shill player for IWI. Period.

No matter how many bs stories you post it doesn't change that fact.
Toobo
Project Fruit House
#30 - 2016-10-13 22:05:01 UTC
I won't argue on this IWI issue anymore. It's just funny how people assume I must be associated with IWI in any other ways than as a regular customer just like everyone else who is not in IWI corp and gamble for fun.

I admit I am a fan boy. I had fantastic time at IWI while it lasted. I felt what I experienced was worth more than any amount of ISK I earned or lost. Now it's over, I'm sad, but I thank the staff and community for the amazing ride, and will always keep the good memories and have screenshots to look back on and smile about.

Don't get bitter in a game of chance mate. We shall never see such things again related to EVE, but this is just general advice.

Don't be the idiot who get kicked out from a casino or poker table by security guys because you rage & call foul play when you lose in a legit gamble. Gambling, through out history and until now, has very distinct culture and code of honour (even among the addicts lol). You honour the bet you made, and take the loss on the chin, and you pay for your loss even if it means losing your kidney to pay for it.

You can go bankrupt IRL and get some debts written off or rescued/support in some ways by the state (depending on where you live).

But in the gambling world, through out centuries over centuries, it has always been the case that your loss will never be written off. Be it legal casino or illegal gambling house, they will chase you down all the way to hell to make you pay for the money you owe from the bet you made with your own will. You can never get away with the losing bet without paying up.

If you can't take the heat, and if you are kind of a person who will rage upon loss in a game of chance, and if you can't afford to lose and take it like a real gambler, don't gamble.

I bet what I could, I lost some, I won some. I took it all as it is, and never raged or whined or shed a tear at my losses - ask anyone at IWI if they ever saw Toobo rage upon loss, the answer will be 'no'.

Take care Iseult and try not to accuse anyone without any proven fact/evidence/whatever.

If I was involved in any rigged way with IWI to win the ISK I won, CCP will be on to me and take my ISK away. If I engaged in any RMT, CCP will zero my wallet.

I gave open challenge to all the doubters before. Feel free to petition me to CCP. I'm as clean as anybody can be on this front. No shady association with IWI, no RMT ever.

I'm a gambler who loved IWI, and got incredibly lucky.

that's all.

o7

Cheers Love! The cavalry's here!
Hulluus
Kuolettava Hulluus
#31 - 2016-10-14 15:05:13 UTC
inb4 Toobo Goes back to RL gambling because he can't get his virtual fix anymore.
Toobo
Project Fruit House
#32 - 2016-10-15 20:26:45 UTC
Hulluus wrote:
inb4 Toobo Goes back to RL gambling because he can't get his virtual fix anymore.



No worries. I have plenty of other addictions and fix I indulge in XD

Cheers Love! The cavalry's here!
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