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Feasibility of ganking a skiff.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#81 - 2016-07-29 12:43:51 UTC
afk phone wrote:
There should be a mining barge only module that improves buffer on average about 80%. Like a hic is able to fit a warp field generator and a covert ops frigate can fit a cov ops cloak. Create a Mining Buffer module. Make it cpu intensive such that a barge can't fit a full rack of mining upgrades AND the Mining Buffer module.

This would bring final balance to the mining game. (Balance would be that it would take 100 mil worth of cats to gank 100 mil worth of barge)

If +80% is too low, then it could be tweaked up over time until the actual balance point is found.

they would still complain, they would want to fit a whole rack and make it a passive module, or as far as rolling the bonus into the hull.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#82 - 2016-07-29 12:52:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
afk phone wrote:
There should be a mining barge only module that improves buffer on average about 80%. Like a hic is able to fit a warp field generator and a covert ops frigate can fit a cov ops cloak. Create a Mining Buffer module. Make it cpu intensive such that a barge can't fit a full rack of mining upgrades AND the Mining Buffer module.

This would bring final balance to the mining game. (Balance would be that it would take 100 mil worth of cats to gank 100 mil worth of barge)

If +80% is too low, then it could be tweaked up over time until the actual balance point is found.

they would still complain, they would want to fit a whole rack and make it a passive module, or as far as rolling the bonus into the hull.
Mate, if Polaris built every one of the mining ships, some would complain about how they only have 99% resists.

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Stoner Ed
Primus Societas
Crimson Interstellar Alliance
#83 - 2016-08-04 09:27:44 UTC
I think procs and skiffs are awesome and a good alternative to switch to when there are gankers around.

Miners mining in them, and then I mean the ones who actually mine actively, are not to fond on having to switch to them tho. Their ore holds fill up fast, specially with boosts and this often means more trips back and forth losing time. And time for a miner is money. And most of them don't like losing money so a lot will still stubbornly stick to their retrievers and macks and take the risk.

Still tho, procs and skiffs can be ganked and have been. I've been lucky enough to see it happen. But it was a **** fit one they got and still took some effort. And that is where the problem lies. Effort. Gankers more of then not go for the easy kill and lack the resolve to do a complete job. Material and economic viability or sustainability is no excuse in my oppinion. If you a ganker you chose to do it and you do it the best you can. Do what ever you can to spread the gospel, reduce competition in belts and gain more recourses for yourself or whatever the reason is you do it. If it dont work, figure out how it does work.
Elite Harvester
Elite Harvesters
#84 - 2016-08-06 03:12:36 UTC
Stoner Ed wrote:
If you a ganker you chose to do it and you do it the best you can. Do what ever you can to spread the gospel, reduce competition in belts and gain more recourses for yourself or whatever the reason is you do it. If it dont work, figure out how it does work.

Well said!

I await your glorious Skiff killmails. Blink

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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#85 - 2016-08-11 09:01:53 UTC
Yesterday a Skiff was ganked in Wuos by 14 Catalysts, it is not on the killboards, some of you got off your lazy entitled ganker butts stopped your forum whining and actually did something in game. There is another Skiff that was ganked in the same system 15th July by 11 Catalysts, see you can do it if you have the will....

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Fiddly Pop
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#86 - 2016-08-14 15:25:13 UTC
Nitshe Razvedka
#87 - 2016-08-14 16:05:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Nitshe Razvedka
Slow one handed clap for Fiddle-wid-Poop.




I trump your hapless skiff ganking efforts with this:

https://zkillboard.com/kill/23900420/


Some delusional Codie called James somebody was killed in his Ishtar by 2 x Hulks and an Orca.




No wonder he has hidden in retirement since 2012. Fail fit n fail codie. The shame, the ridicule.........................

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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#88 - 2016-08-15 17:08:27 UTC
Nitshe Razvedka wrote:
Slow one handed clap for Fiddle-wid-Poop.




I trump your hapless skiff ganking efforts with this:

https://zkillboard.com/kill/23900420/


Some delusional Codie called James somebody was killed in his Ishtar by 2 x Hulks and an Orca.




No wonder he has hidden in retirement since 2012. Fail fit n fail codie. The shame, the ridicule.........................


LMAO that is so funny...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#89 - 2016-08-15 17:10:13 UTC


So there you go, respect for you for actually going off and doing it, now go and slap those whiners who called for a nerf to the Skiff.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Origo Lim
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#90 - 2016-08-16 02:42:22 UTC
I feel inspired by the deeds of Kusion family.
I like the idea of solo ganking a Skiff; with multiple characters, of course.

Lets say, six bombers.
One with a scram, five with target painters.
Will need to run the math to figure out the exact number of TPs needed tho...
Six bombers will be able to kill any skiff in 0.5 system (provided that you use correct damage type).

Will this work ?
Faylee Freir
Abusing Game Mechanics
#91 - 2016-08-16 02:51:06 UTC
Origo Lim wrote:
I feel inspired by the deeds of Kusion family.
I like the idea of solo ganking a Skiff; with multiple characters, of course.

Lets say, six bombers.
One with a scram, five with target painters.
Will need to run the math to figure out the exact number of TPs needed tho...
Six bombers will be able to kill any skiff in 0.5 system (provided that you use correct damage type).

Will this work ?

You should probably drop corp.
Origo Lim
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#92 - 2016-08-16 03:15:28 UTC
Faylee Freir wrote:
You should probably drop corp.
Why ?
Faylee Freir
Abusing Game Mechanics
#93 - 2016-08-16 11:41:04 UTC
Origo Lim wrote:
I feel inspired by the deeds of Kusion family.
I like the idea of solo ganking a Skiff; with multiple characters, of course.

Lets say, six bombers.
One with a scram, five with target painters.
Will need to run the math to figure out the exact number of TPs needed tho...
Six bombers will be able to kill any skiff in 0.5 system (provided that you use correct damage type).

Will this work ?

Last time I was in TCE i was told that all the plebs were in NOL. Surprised to see someone from TCE in the crime and punishment sub-forum asking for help in theorycrafting a gank.

The Kusion family inspires you to multibox gank and the best you come up with is skiffs? Shocked
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#94 - 2016-08-16 12:25:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Dom Arkaral
Faylee Freir wrote:
Origo Lim wrote:
I feel inspired by the deeds of Kusion family.
I like the idea of solo ganking a Skiff; with multiple characters, of course.

Lets say, six bombers.
One with a scram, five with target painters.
Will need to run the math to figure out the exact number of TPs needed tho...
Six bombers will be able to kill any skiff in 0.5 system (provided that you use correct damage type).

Will this work ?

Last time I was in TCE i was told that all the plebs were in NOL. Surprised to see someone from TCE in the crime and punishment sub-forum asking for help in theorycrafting a gank.

The Kusion family inspires you to multibox gank and the best you come up with is skiffs? Shocked

And how long were you in TCE? :P

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Faylee Freir
Abusing Game Mechanics
#95 - 2016-08-16 13:00:54 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Faylee Freir wrote:
Origo Lim wrote:
I feel inspired by the deeds of Kusion family.
I like the idea of solo ganking a Skiff; with multiple characters, of course.

Lets say, six bombers.
One with a scram, five with target painters.
Will need to run the math to figure out the exact number of TPs needed tho...
Six bombers will be able to kill any skiff in 0.5 system (provided that you use correct damage type).

Will this work ?

Last time I was in TCE i was told that all the plebs were in NOL. Surprised to see someone from TCE in the crime and punishment sub-forum asking for help in theorycrafting a gank.

The Kusion family inspires you to multibox gank and the best you come up with is skiffs? Shocked

And how long were you in TCE? :P

Not long, moved on to war decs. Loyal asked me to join TCE because boney and warr were whining about how me and my friends were killing a significant amount of freighter traffic coming out of Jita.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#96 - 2016-08-16 13:33:23 UTC
Faylee Freir wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Faylee Freir wrote:
Origo Lim wrote:
I feel inspired by the deeds of Kusion family.
I like the idea of solo ganking a Skiff; with multiple characters, of course.

Lets say, six bombers.
One with a scram, five with target painters.
Will need to run the math to figure out the exact number of TPs needed tho...
Six bombers will be able to kill any skiff in 0.5 system (provided that you use correct damage type).

Will this work ?

Last time I was in TCE i was told that all the plebs were in NOL. Surprised to see someone from TCE in the crime and punishment sub-forum asking for help in theorycrafting a gank.

The Kusion family inspires you to multibox gank and the best you come up with is skiffs? Shocked

And how long were you in TCE? :P

Not long, moved on to war decs. Loyal asked me to join TCE because boney and warr were whining about how me and my friends were killing a significant amount of freighter traffic coming out of Jita.

TCE was 95% freighter ganks while NOL was 95% everything else. I miss those times tbh (had an alt in TCE)
Learned a lot on what to do to get ganked hahah
The "4 freighters an hour" era :D

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Faylee Freir
Abusing Game Mechanics
#97 - 2016-08-16 17:09:24 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Faylee Freir wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Faylee Freir wrote:
Origo Lim wrote:
I feel inspired by the deeds of Kusion family.
I like the idea of solo ganking a Skiff; with multiple characters, of course.

Lets say, six bombers.
One with a scram, five with target painters.
Will need to run the math to figure out the exact number of TPs needed tho...
Six bombers will be able to kill any skiff in 0.5 system (provided that you use correct damage type).

Will this work ?

Last time I was in TCE i was told that all the plebs were in NOL. Surprised to see someone from TCE in the crime and punishment sub-forum asking for help in theorycrafting a gank.

The Kusion family inspires you to multibox gank and the best you come up with is skiffs? Shocked

And how long were you in TCE? :P

Not long, moved on to war decs. Loyal asked me to join TCE because boney and warr were whining about how me and my friends were killing a significant amount of freighter traffic coming out of Jita.

TCE was 95% freighter ganks while NOL was 95% everything else. I miss those times tbh (had an alt in TCE)
Learned a lot on what to do to get ganked hahah
The "4 freighters an hour" era :D

Loyal was definitely talented and brought tons of content to a bynch of people. RIP
Nitshe Razvedka
#98 - 2016-08-16 17:39:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Nitshe Razvedka
Loyalanon made fun of member of the EVE community who killed his child and committed suicide. He ridiculed this persons death in channel to people who played with him. Ask CCP for details.

Loyalanon made jokes about child **** on the Code website. Have screenshots and happy to provide to the proper authorities.


People like loyal are a cancer on the game. He will not be missed by the majority of Eve.

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Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#99 - 2016-08-16 18:40:26 UTC
Stay relevant to the OP Nitshe, especially since talking about bans is breaking the rules.

The past is behind for a reason.

GFs Fiddly

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Nitshe Razvedka
#100 - 2016-08-16 18:51:05 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Stay relevant to the OP Nitshe, especially since talking about bans is breaking the rules.

The past is behind for a reason.

GFs Fiddly



Pity you never had the moral courage to keep him in check. Pity Jame315 never displayed leadership in keeping him in check.

Hang your head in shame Dom then GTFO. And you lecture me on breaking rules. GTFO!

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