EVE General Discussion

So that's the deal. I think we, the playerbase, have the ability AND the right to police ourselves.

There is no need for CONCORD in EVE. Players, not npcs, police everything else ingame. Why can't CCP allow us to also police high security space? I am not saying remove high sec, you could implement something that keeps anyone under -5.0 out of 0.5's and higher, or even have it scale. Factional Warfare could cover high sec also. And yes, we need starter systems.
I understand the need for a certain ammount of 'security' for newbros, but please don't make us slaves to the machines any longer!

Justice is a human construct, but CCP places stewardship of it in the hands of non-player characters. There is no justice there, just mechanics. Where is the human element? Human element best element? The very presence of CONCORD causes bot like behavior from players. How can anything npc decide what defines human justice.?

Are we not worthy CCP?

Do you not have any faith in our community?

We need player ran police departments in EVE, the only thing standing in our way is the redundancy that CONCORD creates. EVE is about taking control, yet we are being hamstrung by the same people that tell us to take control.

EVE is hard huh? Prove it. Let us, the players, decide what's wrong and what's right in our communities.

Who's with me? Who wants to play in a real sandbox?

Not even close friend. There is opportunity for much isk to be made by the humam police forces in high security space. Plus the option for 'police only' mods and access to pursuit type hulls that can bridge into systems they police.


How could this not be good?

History has shown that a large amount of people living in High-sec are not willing to put even a token effort into self-defense.

The MoO gatecamp from the early days of EVE showed that a tankable CONCORD (see: CONCORD used to behave similar to the Faction Police) can be beaten back by a large enough force and steamroll through most player counter-strikes.

The Goonswarm Incursions (all of them) showed that a large enough force can roll through multiple corporations and Starbases at the same time.

The Hulkageddon and Burn Jita events showed that your average player is generally pretty bad at "paying attention" to current events and coming up with countermeasures that don't involve simply logging off until the dust settles.


Hell... we still have bleating masses up in arms because someone has declared war on them and are interfering with their "pacifist" lifestyle.




You can already do this. Set up a gatecamp at places you know -0.5 or lower players often travel through. Or escort convoys of ships. Then shoot the "outlaws" when they appear.



True enough. But players simply do not have the will, time, or reaction speed to stop all offenses or be everywhere at once.

Also... players can be bribed or bought out

This is why few "non-PvP corporations" do not trust MERC groups to defend them and would rather whine.



You take some, you give some.

Neither the current situation nor yours is ideal (for different respective parties). But at least the current situation is... more reliable and trustworthy for some.

The anti gankers are by and large hilariously bad at their job,
you would essentialy need the mercs to do this as they are the only ones in high with the manpower, experiance and most importantly the patience to operate as effective millitary forces in highsec.
As an ex merc can tell you with almost 100% certainty that the only systems that would see any service would be the systems
Jita, amarr , dodixi and the systems that connect them, with a handfull of +1's ocasionally being policed.

And thats only if you pay them.

good cops should know what's happening in their systems, and who is in them. if a system is not worth paying for police protection, then it should not have any.



This opens more opportunities, for player oversight through government. If you live in an area, be prepared to at least vote for a government. We already vote for CSM, lets elect governors for regions.

any region worth living in should have no problems electing a government.



he gets it



Serene Repose, i knew someone would think that i was trolling, but i am truly all for building a better EVE. and i believe that can only be done without CONCORD interference.

HIghsec is so awkward.

if this scares you it's because you cannot understand the benefit to making EVE the game you see in the advertisements.

the removal of CONCORD can only benefit EVE as it will bring out our strengths, and force the community to hold us all accountable.

resistance is a sign of fear, the only way to overcome that fear is to face it.

There are no where near enough players for this to be remotely viable as an idea. If you dislike how CONCORD works go out to Null and don't look back.

CONCORD are a part of the game, they're not going anywhere, get used to it. They're a mechanic and a core part of the game.

Also this belongs in Features and Ideas, not General Discussion.

I felt a great disturbance in the forums, as if thousands of voices suddenly cried out in terror.