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Wormhole Life (How is the Daily Ruoutine of a PvE focus Corp)

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Sit Downpls
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-08-08 14:01:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Sit Downpls
Hello Community as the Title say and was wondering what kind of Class would fit into that what i Train so far.

I do allot of Exploration, have my Relic and Data Site skills up to 5 + Scanning at 4.
Have also allot of Skills into Ore Mining and Exhumer 4 but could effort Skilling Toward Gas Harverster T2.
I can Fly a decent T2 Shield Caracal atm with Caldari Cruiser 4.
Have all the PI skills at lvl 4

And it would be also interesting to know how the Routines are there ?
It is more of a Teamwork i guess.
And if you run Relic/Data sites, how long would it take for a new Respawn in general ?
I'm looking for some interesting Corporations that are active at EU TZ.
But before joining one, what kind of Class are the best ones for me ?

Greetings

Edit: Here is a very Usefull Guide about Wormholes, if someone have the same Question as i did
http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/tenge/EverythingWormhole.pdf
Sit Downpls
Doomheim
#2 - 2016-08-08 14:01:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Sit Downpls
And covops at 3
Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
#3 - 2016-08-08 17:14:14 UTC
This isn't what you want to hear, if you're living in a WH, yes you have to earn ISK, but you are going to have to PvP fairly often. That's just part of the territory. That being said, when it comes to making ISK, data/relic sites aren't really the best way to do it. If you're in a C1-C3, you'll get nullsec data/relic sites, so you can run those. Any WH level site has sleepers (rats) guarding them, and the real ISK from those sits is the loot and salvage from the sleepers, not from hacking the cans themselves. Train gas mining. Gas sites (which also have sleepers guarding them) are very decent money.

A typical day? Log in, scan and bookmark every signature in every system up to a few systems out from the home wormhole. Mash d-scan. Track down and mark the location of every POS and citadel in those systems, look up the corps who own them for activity and check who in those corps might be online and active at the time. Mash d-scan some more. If there are people active in neighboring WHs, try to get a fight (if you start PvE-ing, you're going to get a fight whether you want it or not). hit that d-scan button. If everything is quiet, warp to gas sites to trigger them, once the sleepers spawn, kill them and salvage the wrecks, with alts sitting on incoming WHs to watch for unfriendlies. keep d-scanning. You're about to bring your gas harvesters in, but you notice a new signature in system. You stop everything you're doing, scan it down and scout out what it might be, in case it's a hostile WH. d-scan some more. Now that you have that new sig scanned down, huff the gas, bring it back home. When your static WH doesn't have anything, (you're still d-scanning, right?) roll it (pass ships back and forth to force it to collapse) and force a new WH to spawn in your home system. Start the process over again.

When its slow, check/reset your PI, haul fuel/loot/etc back to HS when you have a good connection.

You could handle sleepers in a C1/C2 with a drake. Any class higher than a C2 is going to be tough without a tengu/rattlesnake/etc.

If you're wondering what class of WH to move into, remember you're going to run sites in their statics more than you are in home.

C1 has one static, to high, low or null.

C2's have two statics

Hisec & C1
Hisec & C3
Hisec & C4
Lowsec & C2
Nullsec & C5
Nullsec & C6

C3s have one static, to high, low or null

C4s have two statics, to two different WH classes. No direct connections to known space. Don't think about C5/C6 as a new player.

All that to say, if you're going to PvE, think about the static connections your home WH has more than your home itself. And if you're very averse to PvP, seriously think if you want to live in WHs instead of day tripping. You're going to get into fights whether you like it or not.
aldhura
Blackjack and Exotic Dancers
Top Tier
#4 - 2016-08-08 19:16:46 UTC
Best bet is to find a good active corp in your TZ as they will all have different requirements you will need to fit in.
There is no set respawn rates in WH. Some of what you do will involve doing it in other/connecting wh's.
My previous corp has a c3 with static HS and are pretty good at helping new players, look them up
Sit Downpls
Doomheim
#5 - 2016-08-09 10:48:33 UTC
Wow that was a nice Description about the Routine you have in a WH thanks
I wll keep researching a bit.
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2016-08-09 11:41:04 UTC
I spent around 9 months in a C4
The things I did was usually
- PI
- Scanning
- Site Running
- Intruder Observation
- Intruder Swatting
- Waiting for people to log in

I have very minimal science & industry skills, other people in the corp did
- Gas Mining
- T3 Hull Production
- T3 Subsystem Production
- Product transportation to market

Scanning all the things is the major daily task.
Waiting can be the next.
The main way of $ making is in Gas, T3 production, and Blue Loot.
Hipqo
Tyde8
#7 - 2016-08-10 09:13:05 UTC
The main skills required for wormholes are patience and the ability to do stuff on your own.
75% of the time absolutely nothing happens, the other 25% all hell breakes loose!
But you spend your day scanning, like you have never scanned before, updating wormhole mapper tools (Siggy, Tripwire, etc.), finding POS's and Citadels and making sure all bookmarks are updated.

You cant really live in wormhole space without doing PVP, it comes with the territory, but that being said, pvp rarely comes to you and when it does its usually a 15 man t3 fleet with full logi support on a roam. :P

You need to find all content on your own (hence being able to do stuff on your own) and it varies greatly from day to day. Some times you have 6+ wormholes connected to your home, full of russians, goons and the big bosses of wormhole space, just wanting to bathe in the blood of your cold dead clone.
Other days you have 1 or 2 holes with absolutely no activity in it and you end up spending hours doing nothing really :)

The main income in wormhole space is sleeper ratting (blue loot), gas harvesting, PI and killing other players ratting, for that sweet blingy fit they fly.
You will also find that in general most wormholers tend to bling out their fits, because you wanna stay alive as long as possible and you are making more then enough ISK to field a 1b t3 cruiser, and loose it often.
You cant really just go get another ship, unless you brought extra in ofc, so people wanna make sure they are as difficult to kill as possible.

Wormhole space is a magical place, full of horror and boredom, its not for everyone.
If you are the kind of guy who has 1-2 hours to play each time you sit down, wormhole space really isnt for you tbh. You will end not being able to do anything because so much time goes into preperation for either a ratting session or a roam, since you need to scan your way everywhere.

I can only recommend wormhole space, its the most fun ive ever had in EVE and most of the time you dont have to deal with the BS politics, like Null and Low has. That being said, its a niche part of the game and it isnt for the people who wants instant action or fast ISK.

A life is best lived, to not step into your grave in a well preserved body. Instead, to slide in side ways, all battered and bruised, screamming, "Holy SH**! What a ride!"

Jinn McKellin
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2016-08-10 10:43:38 UTC
Damn......I was really thinking about giving WH living a chance

I think I'll be reconsidering that..

Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2016-08-10 13:12:32 UTC
I would recommend joining a corp based in a c2 with null/5 static

This provides you almost guaranteed content every day. However most of the corps currently residing in such holes are pvp-focused and you're not likely to get invited if you provide them with no pvp content.

A lot of the time wormhole space is about scanning. You don't scan you get no content.

Next boring part is hole rolling, waiting for holes to open to you can take forever and you're not likely going to wait 16-24 hours for one to collapse by itself.

After that it's all about finding things to do in the connections you have. The aforementioned hole I suggested allows you to go around all of null sec to steal their data/relic sites and c5 space to ninja gas or ninja hack server banks.

Overall, j-space is EVE's hardmode and not always appealing to everyone, however I believe it's the most rewarding experience I've had while playing this game. The pvp shakes are insane cause you literally have no idea what might happen no matter how hard you prepare.
Demolishar
United Aggression
#10 - 2016-08-10 14:29:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Demolishar
I'd say minimum requirements is a max skilled T3 cruiser plus at least 1 covops scanning alt. So you're not really ready yet TBH IMO.
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#11 - 2016-08-10 19:15:39 UTC
OP, perhaps you might find the "wormholes" section of the EvE forums to be of interest to you:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=2934


Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2016-08-10 19:31:17 UTC
Islands among the stars

Old, but still highly useful reading.
Should have linked it earlier, my bad Lol
Sit Downpls
Doomheim
#13 - 2016-08-11 08:42:34 UTC
Omg so many replys that helps me out to know what will wait for me if i wanna be in a wh corp.
I guess i will spend some more time in exploration and sneaking in wh's till i have more sp in combat.
@ Kitty Bear
Thx for the link looks interesting. I will read it when i'm back Home
Sit Downpls
Doomheim
#14 - 2016-08-11 10:49:44 UTC
Kitty Bear wrote:
Islands among the stars

Old, but still highly useful reading.
Should have linked it earlier, my bad Lol


Btw i will ad the link to my OP
Sit Downpls
Doomheim
#15 - 2016-08-13 22:07:46 UTC
I was the last 2 days in a WH and i think it isnt something for me.
A daytrip to WH is more interesting and then leave when i want to do something else :)
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#16 - 2016-08-15 01:10:29 UTC
Sit Downpls wrote:
I was the last 2 days in a WH and i think it isnt something for me.
A daytrip to WH is more interesting and then leave when i want to do something else :)


I've traditionally moved into a wormhole and lived out of a small tower if there was enough sites to warrant it, otherwise this way is best if you're a soloer imo.

@lunettelulu7

Meneer Wolf
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2016-08-22 09:30:50 UTC
In my WH corp we play a lot together, more than I was used to in null sec.

We have people that create content by scannings the holes & sigs and that share this info with our worm hole mapping tool and our corp bookmarks. Others help to clear the sleepers in the gas sites, so others can start harvesting.

A lot of us spend time in Pi because it gives a nice stable additional incoming. We also do some ratting & salvaging and hauling stuff in and outside of the wormhole.

A lot of time goes into knowing your environment, scanning and identifying who is around you.

If you consider joining a wh corp, I would pick one that has enough players that work together and like that above generating solo isk. Solo playing in a hole is imho too dangerous.

If you're thinking about something new, join The House of Asterion.

We're an active EU-TZ PVP Wormhole corp looking for a few more members. We have a C3 and C5 static, good for solo and group PVE. And everything is set-up for industry as well.