Wormholes

Looks like I would not be able to make it... I hope it gets recorded.
Issues in my opinion:
- Re-evaluate the way isk access is balanced through wh classes (I dont neccesarilly subscribe to the risk/reward paradigm, but choose one paradigm and apply).
- Maybe add a less "faucet-y" income, if you dont want to mess with the market. i.e. mats, salvage instead of blue loot which it has fixed value.
- I would like a clarification on where CCP sees wh-space going (and dont need an ego-boost, so something like : "we considered wh a big important part of eve so we'll put a lot of effort on creating new and engaging ways in which player living in wh-space can impact the game" of some sort).
- Add value to C6 space: More isk, more connections. 2nd, or even 3rd static (JS, KS)
- Fix c5/c6 data/relics so they spawn the frikin drifter (I feel thiss issue has lowered wh income by a lot).
- Is it possible to rotate anoms/sigs at a higher rate?
- Can we get an ingame wh mapper? (now that IGB its being phased out)

Simple message in local saying "dudes we are a 3 man corp, pls" is enough for a lot of people to leave you alone. When an entity knows they won't get any content out of you, smart and logical thing to do is roll away and find something else.

Idea of the Frig holes was to stir up more content. I don't think that they have been really successful on that. I think it would be time to bring something new to the WH's and maybe more "WH Like" content. How about if there would be wormholes that would go only one way? So once you enter you cannot return to the same system, the return would go to different system (WH or K-space) or it would be only one way...the end must be somewhere, otherwise there will be insane amount of WH's.

Vasama

Nope, it's very easy if you know how.

Normally i am all for defending wh dweller's homes, but the problem is that for about 95% of the corps out there once your citadel is anchored, they wont' do anything at all. popping it during the anchoring phase is about the only opportunity most will have. this is mainly because even an astrahus can field fighters in wh space which btw, i have personally witnessed send a fleet running for the hills after hilariously nuking their battleships. not to mention only 3 hours of vulnerability a week means that very few corps will every encounter it during it's vulnerable period. this isn't to say that astrahus are too powerful, just that without that it's hard to argue the vulnerability window considering how powerful they are once online.

I could see possibly a small reduction in onlining time so people aren't literally sacrificing their lives to online a space house, but def nothing below 12 hours.

The Event was an amazing success. Thank you all for coming out.

I didn't record personally but there will be some recording published soon.

I have to leave straight to work. But we talked for about 2 hours and 20 mins. If someone wants to take the recording and make an outline or notes that would save me a lot of work. Otherwise I'll take care of that myself and have it for the Summit.

Thanks again.

-colors and brightness of scan window, it is hard to see the red dots. THIS, so mch THIS

Also keep frig holes. In fact, more frig holes. From lowsec. I mean, i don't often blog Rattlesnakes, but when i do it's hilarious with frigates.

So these things often lack a quick overview of what happens in the thread. So here are my very brief notes of the meeting. If no one really wants this here, salted with my personal opinions when i have em. I can always delete it/edit it into oblivion.

Scanning:

Making scanning easier by having sigs come up with identification sooner. So you can focus quicker on what you want to scan down to 100%.

My take: Meh. I spend a small amount of my day scanning compared to recon the sigs i find (including c5/c6 chains). As someone who did spend some time helping larger null groups find chains for them, this change would have little effect. In terms of a lower barrier to entry for new players however this could be great.

The Scanning map/interface needs lots of fixes. I don't think anyone disagrees with this.

Wormhole Connectivity:

It is thought that c5 dual statics won't happen. C6 duel statics could attract some ppl from c4s. ppl disagreed and claimed your in a c4 to avoid capitol ship based evictions. C6/5 people in the channel complained that high class space is dead (well then you shouldn't' have evicted me :P).

It was asked how null/low folk using WH chains helps interaction in WH space. There was no clear answer on this.

It was discussed that a c4 connection with moderate mass but very high regen would not encourage null/low groups but WH roamers could still use em.

Wormhole despawn bugs and perhaps better info on how long till EOL: Yea we all agree with this don't we? Accept some ppl said they don't want better EOL warnings. The getting stuck or the uncertainty is what makes WH space interesting.

Frig WHs:

A bit mixed here. Options go either way. Some people dislike the t3d meta, but that is hardly restricted to WH space.

PvE site spawn Rate & lifetime:

Idea is have combat sites have 4 day lifetime wrapped to or not. Stops accumulation of sites in empty WHs. People may be on more often to run em. People where a bit mixed about this, but over all the impression is that this would be a good thing. It was said that 4 days is too low for small corps (As someone from a small corp, I strongly disagree. This would be a great change). It was pointed out that spawn rates right now in C5 is ****. Yes it is. Even solo i could often run out of sites to run, and that was before the current changes made c5s even more empty.

Cap escals:

The nurf in isk means that many don't run them with caps. However at least one corp disagreed. highsec incursions was brought up. (about +80M an hour in highsec incursion practically 100% risk free, per account In My experience anyway). Others pointed out than non cap corps find the new sites better. Since they can run them with less skill and isk outlay. It was discussed that there is simply no reason to commit caps for the current sites.

This ended up being quite a good discussion. I recommend listening to it. It goes for bit and i won't put it here. But many good ideas where put forward.

PvE minning:

High risk with bad rewards. Perhaps make em all high yield ore. this was a very brief point, but was generally well received and perhaps something to consider.

FAXs:

FAXs op in WH space? The consensuses is that with cap boosters they are op since they can just tank too much for too long. Different ideas where suggested. The most intriguing was reducing the mass of Dreads compared to FAXs. So there can be enough dreads to overcome FAXs, while not screwing up the balance for nullsec. Personally I have no direct experience. But if FAXs really are tanking that much more than the old school triage carriers i can see the problem.

Dreads:

it was stated that the new dread is awful for WH. The lower number of pvp dread fights means its hard to say. No real consensuses here. tied in with the FAX discussion a lot.

Citadels:

"i can't defend my timer as a small group", but at the same time they seem very powerful once onlined. More discussion of reducing the anchoring timer of at least mediums was considered a good idea. To as low as 8 hours.

The DD was considered more or less balanced with cap. Anyone who can afford it/consider taking it on should be able to deal with it.

Directors and access to stuff was discussed. Shared hanger/inventory space is a something that many want and will be asked for. But programmatic apparently it is hard to do.

Citadel missing list:

Drones spread out and its stupid. Glitches with drones and you can't recall them can be a problem.

Dead sticks, Dead citadels. The idea of very very low fuel use was floated, so that eventually dead citadels do infact become dead.

Bugs:

Scanning bugs. We all know em. Bugs with WH collapsing before they say they are going to. Drones and repairing them when tethered. C4 sites relic/data are broken. Things showing up on overview when they are cloaked. Random decloaking. Super bright gas clouds.. should be fixed apparently. Warp to BM end up at sig..Been there forever most of us know about it (but then i almost lost a dread to that in a C5 when i forgot.) sigs not despawing across accounts is inconstant. CREST reliability when IGB is gone.

Personally I think they are not going to keep the IGB browser no matter what. A little bird told me that they think having in the game at all was a massive mistake. So yea lets get CREST reliable.

General conclusion: WH space is better and we are cooler, more awesome and less salty than k spacers. :D

Even though i am currently not in a WH, i am a one in spirit. And i will be back. Once i make all my iskies back :(.

I've always laughed when I hear "Your just living in a C4 to avoid capitals fights and evictions". My current Corp has tried C5 and C6 space on a few occasions. It was some of the most fun I've had in EVE. However, we were never big enough to defend that type of space(see H0neybadger eviction via BU). It became clear that we were whelping caps because we couldn't support them, we loved using them and fighting against them but our numbers almost always dictated a loss.

We've used our current C4-C4/C5 not only to rebuild the Corp but to grow it as well. There will come a day we return to the "motherland" but for now I see absolutely no reason to. We have gotten some incredible fights/skirmishes out our C4 chain. Our C5 chain however ends up being our best way to HS to sell our dank loots. Hardly ever do we get fights from it, mostly because it's empty. After the Town Hall and the discussion of C6 getting a dual static myself and others in Corp got really excited at the thought of returning to High Class WHS. A C6 with C4/C5 statics would be the dream, use caps when we want to and still have the huge C4 chains that seem to be filled with people to shoot.

Other than the trolling of 1 or 2 I loved almost every idea that was discussed. I feel like Noob is definitely looking out for WHs....not just "his" whs but all of us. For the C1-C3 guys that feel like they are being put on the wayside in favor of high class....open your mouth and voice your WH. Collect reasonable thought out ideas/concerns/complaints.

Currently medicated and feeling emotional, love you guys!

Why is that? The reasons why high-class space is dead is because of changes to the pve side of things mostly.