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Banhyne
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-01-16 17:14:11 UTC
I'm not going to claim to know every little thing about EVE, but sometimes some things strike you as strange. One of these things happened today when I jumped into a low-sec system and got killed and podded by a gate camp. No big deal, such is EVE. Wasn't the first time, won't be the last

What got me though was the speed the attack began. I wasn't even fully decloaked before I was dead and it took them several salvos to do so.

Hence my question. Is it possible to lock people who have just jumped into system, or lock so quickly you can fire several rounds before the decloak is done. One of the folks in Local told me they use an exploit, but I figured I'd check.

The camp consisted of a loki and 2 legions. No idea of their fits.

Pilots were Roger Dodger and PiLINchi + friend.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#2 - 2012-01-16 17:28:05 UTC
Most likely they had remote sensor boosters fitted.

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Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#3 - 2012-01-16 17:31:40 UTC
They should not have been able to hit you while you were cloaked. Perhaps you moved or something.

I'm not sure if smartbombs work while you are cloaked after jumping in. Was there any smart bomb damage?

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ROXGenghis
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-01-16 17:45:56 UTC
The confusion may lie in the decloak animation. When you decloak, it looks like you slowly become visible, so one might assume that you're "fully decloaked" after the animation is complete and your ship looks all solid. However, in reality other players see you as decloaked the moment you "start decloaking."
Banhyne
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-01-16 17:46:29 UTC
I went to warp to a safespot, hoping to dodge their locking, so I was uncloaked. They had me locked and killed before the decloaking animation finished though. My Arbi was still half transparent when it exploded.

Nope, no smartbomb damage. Wasn't close enough at any rate. Just 720 howitzers and pulse lasers.
Othran
Route One
#6 - 2012-01-16 17:52:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Othran
Banhyne wrote:
I went to warp to a safespot, hoping to dodge their locking, so I was uncloaked. They had me locked and killed before the decloaking animation finished though. My Arbi was still half transparent when it exploded.

Nope, no smartbomb damage. Wasn't close enough at any rate. Just 720 howitzers and pulse lasers.


No exploit there. Arbitrator is going to get locked before it warps.

Edit - and has been said the uncloaking animation is no indicator. They would have had you locked within a couple of secs and you'll pop fast enough to that gang. You preselect the guns, scram etc when you see gatefire so as soon as they lock they shoot.
Karl Planck
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-01-16 18:36:23 UTC
yea, your op is misleading. Of course a gate camp is going to nab an arbi (slow as hell). Your pod is also an easy victim. You made it sound like you were in your pod at the gate and got nabbed while trying to warp, which i is substantially more difficult to do.

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Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#8 - 2012-01-16 18:52:49 UTC
It's best that you avoid tama/kedama in a ship that size. I've seen SoT catch shuttles and even manticores before they could cloak. They're usually bracketing each side of the tama/kedama gates.
Squatdog
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-01-17 11:23:50 UTC
Banhyne wrote:
I'm not going to claim to know every little thing about EVE, but sometimes some things strike you as strange. One of these things happened today when I jumped into a low-sec system and got killed and podded by a gate camp. No big deal, such is EVE. Wasn't the first time, won't be the last

What got me though was the speed the attack began. I wasn't even fully decloaked before I was dead and it took them several salvos to do so.

Hence my question. Is it possible to lock people who have just jumped into system, or lock so quickly you can fire several rounds before the decloak is done. One of the folks in Local told me they use an exploit, but I figured I'd check.

The camp consisted of a loki and 2 legions. No idea of their fits.

Pilots were Roger Dodger and PiLINchi + friend.


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The Loki is boosted to the moon and repped by the two Legions.
shal ri
Short Bus Window Licker
#10 - 2012-01-18 16:50:43 UTC
a sebo fitted legion has an insane lock time and thats without leader boosts and remote sebos. u simply just failed to warp fast enough and got podded. well done by the pirates.