Market Discussions

So what happens instead....100isking? That's really going to punch a hole in the trit market.

Damn. I would like to have your reading skills. The words: "Please fix markets ^^^^^ this bad, no good." really stand for time based validation. And here I am thinking they are incoherent ramble. No wonder I was always bad at interpreting poetry.

Don't play it. Rise price by thousands or millions. Then at some point the small traders will stop and only the bg will try and you will know more or less how many big fishes are out there int he market. And yes I agree, instead of having your order moving by isks, let it be more of a real market.

Also adopting stock trade practice would be great. So that you can change price let's say once a day instead of every 5 minutes.

drape me in velvet! we march at dawn!

What? My stuff never runs out

I have no suggestions, no velvet... parades... fill my buy orders

The only thing Ive ever thought of that would reduce 0.01 ISKing is to change what happens if two orders are at the same price. Right now, whichever order has been up the longest gets the fill. Change that to: All orders at the same price see fills at random. Now, as a trader, you can either set your price the same as the current best, to try and hold a fixed price and accepting the slower fill rate, or you can do the 0.01 ISK game and try for the entire market.

This would not get rid on the 0.01 ISK game, it just adds a new option.

The only other way to do a market in Eve may be to take a leaf out of the book of least PvP-oriented MMO game I've ever played - Final Fantasy 11.

The way the market worked in that was that Sell Orders were not visible - instead the only thing that potential buyers could see was the sales history. You had to bid a price and if a match was made, you got the item from the seller with the lowest Sell Order - but critically you got it at the price you bid.

This meant that sellers had to guess if their market was rising or falling, based on knowledge and the data. It also meant that in high volume markets sellers would heavily undercut, relying on buyers who were bidding at the normal price to sell stuff fast. And then there were people who would bid well under the odds on those high volume markets in order to catch people at that.

A blind market might be the only way to change Eve's market system - if you are convinced that it requires a change (I'm not).

Just list the stuff at sensible price at the right place and it will sell eventually. People will undercut you so theirs will get sold first, but eventually stuff gets sold at the price you set over time, unless you've priced your stuff ridiculously high that nobody will ever buy it, but even those get sold from time to time by someone's mistake or whatever.

When I started out trading first I was very actively updating my orders, but these days I just put something on market at the price I think is right and let them sit there. They usually get sold over the months because prices go up and down. You see the ISK much later/slower than active 0.01 isking but it's hassle free.

You just make the tick increments based on the price of the item being traded. For <10.00 Isk its 0.01, for <100 is 0.10, for 1000 its 1, etc whatever you get the idea.